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for israel explosion at support for israel explosion at the hospital in gaza yesterday . the hospital in gaza yesterday. >> and based on what i've seen, it appears as though it was done by the other team . by the other team. >> oh, great. but is the doddery president capable of handling this crisis or could he drive us to world war three? nigel farage is on the way with his blistering analysis. meanwhile, the head of mi5 has warned the hamas attacks could inspire similar atrocities in the uk. just 24 hours after two swedish football fans were killed by an isis terrorist. in my monologue. next, i'll warn about the rise of islamist terror in europe. then we'll get the views of my leading pundits. tonight, i am joined by christine hamilton. i've got adam brooks and i've got matthew laterza as well. what a panel. top team plus as rishi sunak is asked if he'll commit to creating a ukraine style scheme, are palestinian refugees britain's responsibility ? henry bolton and responsibility? henry bolton and dr. shoaib khan will debate that in a fiery clash. and after this
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trans fencer becomes a world champion, are we seeing yet another assault on women's sports? i mean, this time they've armed themselves. deputy tory chairman lee anderson will, as ever, get straight to the point on this issue. he's live in the studio with me very, very shortly. and as always , you'll shortly. and as always, you'll get a first look at tomorrow's newspaper front page is hot off get a first look at tomorrow's nevipress.r front page is hot off get a first look at tomorrow's nevipress. oh,nt page is hot off get a first look at tomorrow's nevipress. oh, yeah. e is hot off get a first look at tomorrow's nevipress. oh, yeah. princet off the press. oh, yeah. prince harry's biographer as well, angela she's uncancelled. angela levin. she's uncancelled. later in the show, a blockbuster, two hours coming right up right after the news with middlehurst . patrick. with polly middlehurst. patrick. >> thank you. good evening. well, the top story from the gp newsroom tonight is that the us president joe biden, has been speaking on a visit to israel where he's announced that a new agreement to allow humanity , agreement to allow humanity, korean aid to move from egypt into gaza. in the south. he also confirmed $100 million worth of new us funding for that aid to get into gaza and the west bank.
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president biden's visit to israel was meant to be a visit to stop the escalation of the conflict in the region. but after last night's bombing of a hospital in gaza , planned hospital in gaza, planned meetings with regional leaders have had to be cancelled . well, have had to be cancelled. well, later on in a speech, he stressed the importance of living by the rule of law . living by the rule of law. >> you are a jewish state, but you're also a democracy like the united states. you don't live by the rules of terrorist . you live the rules of terrorist. you live by the rule of law. and when conflict flare, you live by the law of wars. what sets us apart from the terrorists is we believe in the fundamental dignity of every human life. israeli palestine opinion. arab jew, muslim, christian. everyone it can't give up. what makes you who you are . if you give that up who you are. if you give that up , then the terrorists win and we can never let them win . well the can never let them win. well the us president also supported the
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israeli defence forces claims that the explosion at the hospital in gaza last night was caused by a failed rocket attack on israel by another terror group operating within gaza. >> palestinian islamic jihad. officials in gaza, though, are still blaming the israelis for the explosion, which they say killed nearly 500 people. rishi sunak described the hospital explosion as shocking but called for calm heads and said intelligence analysts would establish exactly what had happened. establish exactly what had happened . now hundreds of happened. now hundreds of pro—palestinian protesters have gathered outside downing street tonight . gathered outside downing street tonight. shouting justice. people are holding up placards calling for an end to the massacre of civilians. the crowd also lighting candles for the victims of last night's explosion at the hospital in gaza. explosion at the hospital in gaza . the in consumer news,
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gaza. the in consumer news, milk, cheese and egg prices fell last month, easing pressure at the supermarket tills, but fuel pnces the supermarket tills, but fuel prices rose sharply . that comes prices rose sharply. that comes as the uk's overall inflation remained at 6.7, despite expectation that it could fall again, to according the office for national statistics , oil for national statistics, oil pnces for national statistics, oil prices are higher because of the war in ukraine and now events in israel and palestine have sparked further oil increase pnces. sparked further oil increase prices . is now sparked further oil increase prices. is now a sparked further oil increase prices . is now a red weather prices. is now a red weather warning for rain has been issued by the met office for parts of scotland that means very dangerous weather is on its way with extensive flooding likely to pose a risk to life . the to pose a risk to life. the warning says it runs from 6 pm. tomorrow until noon on friday. storm barbette, though, has already hit the republic of ireland this afternoon . we've ireland this afternoon. we've seen flooding in county cork and we've seen it hit the english coastline along the devon coast as well . you're with gb news on as well. you're with gb news on tv online dab+ radio, and on the
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tunein app. this is britain's news channel . news channel. >> it is time that our political leaders are held to account for what they've done to britain and europe for the last 20 years. a very small collection of third rate narcissists egomaniacs have managed to make decisions on immigration, both legal and illegal, that have irreversibly changed an entire continent for the worse. the threat of islamist terrorism has gone through the roof in the last few days alone, since it's kicked off between hamas and israel, we've seen a teacher stamped to death in france by a bloke on a terror watch list. we've seen a jihadi gunman rampaging through brussels shooting brussels on a moped, shooting people synagogues people at will, synagogues have been germany, six been firebombed in germany, six french have been closed french airports have been closed due bomb threats. people are due to bomb threats. people are pounng due to bomb threats. people are pouring jewish pouring red paint over jewish schools and people schools in britain and people are being told to remain vigilant when they go to gatherings. just like watching england football at england play football at wembley. in the wembley. this is just in the last mean, there is last few days. i mean, there is an ongoing terror investigation
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as well after was stabbed as well after a man was stabbed to outside a migrant hotel to death outside a migrant hotel in hartlepool. a few in hartlepool. that was a few days that under the days ago that flew under the radar, people of radar, didn't it? the people of europe not consent to scenes europe did not consent to scenes like this. here is a tunisian chap who is known to authorities having pledged allegiance to isis, dressed in bright orange rampaging through the eu's capital city of brussels , capital city of brussels, shooting swedish football fans at will because in sweden there have been burning copies of the quran. apparently we, the people of europe, did not consent to this either . a of europe, did not consent to this either. a man also on a terror watch list shouting allahu akbar and stabbing a teacher to death. i am sick and tired of abnormal city becoming normal of extreme acts of religious based violence, being considered normal. we all do thoughts and prayers. we wear black armbands at the football. we light a few candles. we put the french flag as our profile picture and our politicians have the nerve to come out and tell us that we will not let it defeat us. they're not the ones dying , are they? they're not the
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dying, are they? they're not the ones on front line of the ones on the front line of the problem that their decisions about mass unconcern, world immigration, often illegal immigration, very often illegal immigration, very often illegal immigration have created . we've immigration have created. we've got talk in the house of commons today about this deporting any foreign national with links to hamas. why the heck do you let them in in the first place? seriously i mean, how many times do we have to go through the same thing over and over again ? same thing over and over again? where was this jihadi from? somewhere outside europe . were somewhere outside europe. were they known to authorities? yes, they known to authorities? yes, they were. did they have a history of violence? yeah, they did. yeah. yeah. did they enter illegally? possibly quite hard to tell had we lost track of them. yeah, we had , yeah. have them. yeah, we had, yeah. have people now died as a result? yes, they have. i mean, good grief. this is before we've even started talking about the whole scale, cultural societal scale, cultural and societal change. i'm just talking about the here. the dangerous stuff here. now, it's stress that it's important to stress that the majority of people who come to live in europe obviously aren't bad evil people. but uncontrolled migration means
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that a few incredibly dangerous individuals are able to slip through. undeterred it a group of blithering idiots, often unelected , have, over the course unelected, have, over the course of the last couple of decades, made decisions that have made all of our lives less safe, and they are not held to account for this. and the solution ? more of this. and the solution? more of it, more of it. just look at humza yousaf here. >> in the past, people in scotland and across the uk have opened our hearts and our homes. we have welcomed those from syria, from ukraine and many other countries. conference we must do so again. i'm calling today on the international community to commit to our worldwide refugee program for the people of gaza . the people of gaza. >> oh, great. okay. we all know that not everybody in gaza supports hamas or is a terrorist. and i want to make that very clear. but he must be having a flipping laugh if he thinks that willingly importing people from one of the most militant islamist hotspots in
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the is a good idea at this the world is a good idea at this point in time. i mean, even arab nafions point in time. i mean, even arab nations want to do it. nations don't want to do it. here's jordan's king abdullah . here's jordan's king abdullah. >> refugees in jordan, no >> no refugees in jordan, no refugees in egypt. this is a situation of humanitarian dimension that has to be dealt inside of gaza and the west bank and not to try and push the palestinian challenge and their future onto other people's shoulders . shoulders. >> yeah, scotland as well. i think , apparently needs to deal think, apparently needs to deal with that challenger. i am absolutely seething about politicians making catastrophic judgement calls and playing roulette with our lives as we are now, as ordinary people in europe reaping what these have sown . so few people with so few sown. so few people with so few brain cells have managed to cause so much harm in europe. those are my thoughts. of course i want to hear the thoughts of my panel, author and broadcaster christine hamilton. we've got businessmen adam businessmen and activist adam brooks and former labour party
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adviser matthew le le. i'm going to start with you then , to start with you then, christine. look, i obviously have huge concerns that we have essentially a trojan horse here that could erupt at any moment. >> we absolutely have. and with all this uncontrolled immigration people coming over in the boats, we have no idea who these people are. we have absolutely no idea. and what do we do when we discover somebody who's been peddling these boats and organising? we give him 11 years we don't even years in jail. we don't even clamp down when we catch one of these people who's been responsible clarify, responsible to just clarify, so you're about an you're talking about an individual. >> guy was from iran, >> this guy was from iran, claimed was found living claimed asylum was found living in was responsible , fell in ilford, was responsible, fell for a fifth of the entire boat crossings last year , and he got crossings last year, and he got sentenced to 11 years in a belgian prison . i know. i mean, belgian prison. i know. i mean, it's just bonkers. >> that is our response. i mean, this all started with tony blair, didn't it? because he wanted most things to let well, most bad things he wanted to
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have uncontrolled. your turn in a minute, matthew. he wanted un controlled immigration because a minute, matthew. he wanted un corthoughtmmigration because a minute, matthew. he wanted un corthought thatgration because a minute, matthew. he wanted un corthought that theynn because a minute, matthew. he wanted un corthought that they would use a minute, matthew. he wanted un corthought that they would vote he thought that they would vote labour. he thought that they would vote labour . and he thought that they would vote labour. and we have now i mean the statistics are horrendous. labour. and we have now i mean the are tistics are horrendous. labour. and we have now i mean the are the:s are horrendous. labour. and we have now i mean the are the architectsendous. labour. and we have now i mean the are the architects ofious. labour. and we have now i mean the are the architects of our. labour. and we have now i mean the are the architects of our own we are the architects of our own demise between 2011 and 2021, the total population of the whole country went up by 3.5 million, 33% of that total, 1.2 million, 33% of that total, 1.2 million were muslims. okay, now that speaks for itself. >> societal change is not the direction of travel. >> i'm not saying all muslims are terrorists. of course i'm not. no, but it is not hard to see the direction of travel. oh, of course. we have no idea who is in our country and that in itself is a problem. >> and again, we're just going to emphasise what already to emphasise what we've already said, talking said, which is we're talking about the problem certain about the problem being certain radical elements, right? which about the problem being certain radical elwanents, right? which about the problem being certain radical elwa problemjht? which would be a problem in any society , any of life. society, in any walk of life. i'll to you in second, i'll come to you in a second, adam, but matthew, i can see you were furiously shaking your head. >> i think i mean, >> i just i think i mean, christine, i don't think tony blair immigration policy was dnven blair immigration policy was driven may or may driven by people who may or may not vote labour. manderson
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admitted that it admitted that i think it was mandelson the mandelson well, most of the mandelson well, most of the mandelson that on mandelson admitted that on camera. nobody, nobody, nobody. well, i we have to show me the clip, adam, because he's never you go conversations i've had with him but the issue and of course people from europe couldn't vote in general elections . they could only vote elections. they could only vote in local elections. so all the eu immigration which people can ijust eu immigration which people can i just a quick question directly. do that some of the >> do you think that some of the people like, say, angela merkel or other european leaders who made that now made decision ins that have now made decision ins that have now made us all in europe less safe should be held to account for that? yeah i think i think people should be held to account for policies that they for the policies that they adopted different european for the policies that they adopted tookerent european for the policies that they adopted took very european for the policies that they adopted took very different| stances. >> i've just come back from scandinavia the scandinavia where where the danes swedes take danes and the swedes take diametrically policies, diametrically opposed policies, even had governments, even when they had governments, both led the social democrats both led by the social democrats . the swedes were much more open.the . the swedes were much more open. the danes have very firm for much firmer immigration policy than we have here. so yes, politicians should always be able to account. i think we
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can all agree, though, that humza yousaf clip is absolutely extraordinary, from extraordinary, distracting from his in scotland, his terrible record in scotland, not because he doesn't not least because he doesn't control scotland. control who comes to scotland. it's wide issue, so just ludicrous. >> adam, go on, come in. >> adam, go on, come in. >> there's one thing on the uk terror watch list. >> there's 45,000 being >> there's 45,000 current being monitored . and 40,000 of which monitored. and 40,000 of which are suspected terrorist sympathisers or potential suspects. so we have a real problem here already. it's too late, i'm afraid. and to have tens of thousands of people come over on dinghies who we don't know who they are, they're largely from muslim countries. i'm not actually, i'm not actually. it doesn't matter what colour, what race, what religion they anyone comes here, they are. if anyone comes here, i them to behave and i want them to behave and i don't want them to be. >> you want to know who's >> and you want to know who's coming into the country which you don't have. >> don't want them be >> i don't want them to be a threat, but we have no idea of their background, their criminality. rapists, criminality. we've had rapists, gangsters, already. gangsters, terrorists already. unfortunately, gangsters, terrorists already. unfort got :ely, gangsters, terrorists already. unfort got 40,000 being watched. we've got 40,000 being watched. >> i just i >> yeah. and again, i just i just want to emphasise me, just want to emphasise for me, it's not idea that the
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it's not the idea that the countries that they come or countries that they come from or are muslim, it's the are majority muslim, it's the idea radical elements idea of radical elements infiltrating it. and like we're seeing example in in seeing for example in in brussels recently and that's my issue which is that when we're being told now, christine, when we're being told when you go to this football match at wembley, be . but what are we be vigilant. but what are we being vigilant of? we're being asked to be vigilant for radical all islamist terrorism. aren't we? and that i can't help but feel there's a problem that we've largely imported. >> well, indeed. but who has committed all the terrorist acts in this country? >> well, not all. >> well, not all. >> there have been far right wing terrorists. there have been. there have been far. >> right. but i get your point. yes, i get your point. yeah, yeah, yeah. >> but not things like the death of jo cox and things. no, exactly. >> exactly that. exactly that. that would be my concern, which is that i think, you know, you look around europe now and look around at europe now and i wonder we've wonder whether or not we've brought these issues on brought some of these issues on ourselves are to ourselves that are brought to a head. of course, when you see a
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massive problem taking place in the which is going the middle east, which is going to worse, too late. to get worse, it's too late. >> and that's what i've got to reiterate. it is too late. it only takes a few dozen of the 40,000 that are being watched on that to decide take up that list to decide to take up an or decide to do an arms or decide to do anything. and going to anything. and we're going to have in this country. >> are you fearful matthew, >> are you fearful of matthew, or you think do you think or do you think do you think that, we're a bit that, hey, we're being a bit over top, maybe it's easy to over the top, maybe it's easy to we've seen some reaction, you know, in france recently, there we've seen some reaction, you know in france recently, there we've seen some reaction, you know stabbing. recently, there we've seen some reaction, you know stabbing. obviouslyhere we've seen some reaction, you know stabbing. obviously we've was a stabbing. obviously we've had at an had some bomb threats at an airport. had quite few airport. we've had quite a few issues continent. the issues on the continent. the brussels know, maybe brussels thing, you know, maybe this a short burst. this is just a short burst. maybe maybe we're being a bit o.t.t. think think it's o.t.t. i think it's i think it's a very challenging time for european societies. >> is depending >> i think there is depending where in the middle east where events in the middle east 9°! where events in the middle east go, a conflict. go, there could be a conflict. but think it's incumbent upon but i think it's incumbent upon everybody to stay calm. and what happens. course, you happens. but yes, of course, you know, we do want the authorities to keeping eye as many to be keeping an eye on as many people possible who they've people as possible who they've got concerns. got some concerns. >> would feel would feel >> i would feel i would feel safer our terror was safer if our terror threat was raised because if that then meant that there was more of a
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visible presence. i do have faith in our security services and them. they and i trust them. and they do a remarkable job and they stop a lot things that never hear lot of things that we never hear about, and that's about, thankfully, and that's really important. but i personally around at the personally i look around at the world and i find world at the moment and i find it that we're not it amazing that we're not necessarily at absolute most necessarily at the absolute most severe threat that we could possibly but out of time. possibly be, but out of time. okay come to you. okay i'll come back to you. there loads on tonight, so there are loads on tonight, so look, course, 500 look, of course, after 500 people in a hospital people are killed in a hospital blast in gaza, of the blast in gaza, the leader of the free world, joe biden, arrived in to pledge his in tel aviv today to pledge his support israel. but there's support for israel. but there's this president. he this doddery president. is he capable crisis capable of handling this crisis or dnve capable of handling this crisis or drive us towards or could he drive us towards world iii? nigel farage is world war iii? nigel farage is on the way with his blistering analysis. but next the analysis. but up next in the clash, is asked if clash, rishi sunak is asked if he commit to creating a he will commit to creating a ukraine where we ukraine style scheme where we get of palestinian get a load of palestinian refugees essentially, i'm asking, our asking, is that our responsibility? so former responsibility? okay, so former ukip bolton goes ukip leader henry bolton goes
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>> the camilla tominey show sunday mornings from 9.30 on . gb sunday mornings from 9.30 on. gb news nigel farage and lee anderson are on the way, but now it's time for the clash . it's time for the clash. >> well, as the war between israel and hamas continues to escalate and arab countries like egypt and jordan remarkably rule out accepting refugees from that war zone, the prime minister has come under pressure to allow fleeing gazans to enter the uk. so yesterday scottish first minister humza yousaf called for a ukraine style refugee scheme and the snp's house of commons leader stephen flynn doubled down on that demand earlier today at pmqs. let's have a
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watch . watch. >> i ask the prime minister what early consideration of any his government has given to the creation of a refugee resettlement scheme . resettlement scheme. >> mr speaker, i'm proud that we are already one of the most significant contributors to the united nations efforts to support palestinian refugees and our funding supports around 5.8 million refugees annually . yeah, million refugees annually. yeah, remarkable , isn't it? remarkable, isn't it? >> so tonight i am asking, are palestinian refugees, britons responsibility? let me know your thoughts . you can email me thoughts. you can email me gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at gb news. and while you're there, make sure you go to our poll and i'll bring you the results very, very shortly. so to debate this, i'm joined by human rights lawyer dr. shoaib khan and border control expert henry bolton . chaps, thank henry bolton. chaps, thank you very welcome to the fray. very much. welcome to the fray. henry, i will start with you. are palestinian refugees are responsibility ? responsibility? >> no . >> no. >> no. >> what is our responsibility , i >> what is our responsibility, i would say, is to try to stop
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this conflict getting any worse. >> stop it getting spreading, and then to try and de—escalate the situation and, of course, put pressure on all parties. and of course, we've got very little ability to apply pressure on hamas , but on all parties to try hamas, but on all parties to try and avoid civilian casualties. but when we talk about refugees, patrick, i you know, first of all, all the palestinians want to stay in that region . point to stay in that region. point number one. point number two, and we can talk about any of these in more detail, both jordan and egypt. do not want are closing their borders to refugees. palestinian refugees from gaza or potentially from the west bank. although i don't particularly see that as being a problem, not in the in the immediate future . and why are immediate future. and why are they doing that? well, let's talk about the egyptians, the egyptians closing their egyptians are closing their borders to palestinian refugees from gaza because they fought a long running war with extremists
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in the sinai peninsula . they in the sinai peninsula. they they believe that amongst those people who would leave gaza are extremists, are hardline hamas fanatics who would then cause problems both within egypt and launching or continuing the conflict against israel , but conflict against israel, but launching it from egypt, conflict against israel, but launching it from egypt , thereby launching it from egypt, thereby undermining , weakening, may be undermining, weakening, may be destroying the peace agreement that has existed between those two countries. for 40 years. what i would say is we don't want to bring those people here or take them out of the region. our diplomat and aid effort should be working on. okay, i'll come back to i'm in the come back to you. i'm in the region so that they can return and come back to you. >> i'll come to you. dr. >> i'll come back to you. dr. shoaib question to shoaib khan, same question to you. refugees you. our palestinian refugees are responsibility. you. our palestinian refugees are well, nsibility. you. our palestinian refugees are well, yeah, ty. you. our palestinian refugees are well, yeah, everyone's >> well, yeah, everyone's responsible answer responsible. we just to answer some points just made, some of the points just made, i mean, firstly, in terms of, you know, we should be doing more to in ceasefire just in terms of a ceasefire or just bringing region. bringing peace to the region. just a few hours ago, the un was
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trying to a resolution. the trying to pass a resolution. the us vetoed it and the uk abstained. and was exactly abstained. and that was exactly what calling for. a what it was calling for. a ceasefire and humanitarian protection i protection. so of course, i mean, i think that's just rhetoric, it? we're not rhetoric, isn't it? we're not doing that. doing anything about that. and as we're them as usual, we're giving them millions billions of millions or billions of taxpayers but that's it. taxpayers money. but that's it. we're really interested we're not really interested in peace doing peace there. we're not doing anything. secondly. but but anything. but secondly. but but secondly, of the secondly, in terms of the refugees , course, mean, refugees, of course, i mean, everyone's responsibility. i don't see why they're not. the point is, you know, if for instance, someone suddenly invaded france, is itjust invaded france, is it just britain's responsibility ? britain's responsibility? because, you know, we share a border or we have the channel, but do you not think to show about we just open the channel. >> i'll get you. i'll stay with you. dr. trobe, i'll stay. you. i'll dr. trobe, i'll stay. i'll stay with you. but to be fair, somebody france fair, if somebody invaded france and spain and germany and us and spain and germany said not taking french said we're not taking any french people, then some people in the middle east might start asking questions zahawi questions about that. dr. zahawi well, they would well, they might, but they would be wrong. >> the whole is the humans >> the whole point is the humans and you know, you don't just because your neighbour isn't helping you helping another neighbour, you
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don't doors well. don't shut your doors as well. but aren't helping but why aren't they helping them? what is our them? what is our what is our moral obligation we moral obligation? what do we think right thing ? are we think is the right thing? are we seriously know , seriously taking, you know, lessons from egypt? is that how we foreign policy now? we run our foreign policy now? is doing right thing is egypt doing the right thing or just don't really or not? i just don't really understand in understand that. and second, in terms closing borders, terms of egypt closing borders, i despicable , bill. i think that's despicable, bill. of these people of course, these people literally their of course, these people litera and their of course, these people litera and you their of course, these people litera and you should,|eir of course, these people litera and you should, you know, lives and you should, you know, slam shut on their slam the door shut on their face. course, that's wrong. face. of course, that's wrong. but the point is, yes, i understand because no understand because there's no scheme just scheme there. that's just literally a borders open, people just through. and that's just rushing through. and that's the point. instead the whole point. instead of i find can i could find that can i just could i just say i find that remarkable from a who i regularly from a chap who i regularly speak about channel migration speak to about channel migration right ? right? >> to say that they shouldn't be accepting them because there's no there and no proper scheme there and they're just running through the borders. do that an borders. i do find that quite an interesting events. dr. interesting turn of events. dr. show henry, i'm to show look, henry, i'm going to go to what do you make go back to you. what do you make of shapps said there? of what shapps just said there? >> well, first of all, about the ceasefire. yeah, not ceasefire. yeah, i'm not supporting a ceasefire. absolutely no how. absolutely not. no way. no how. hamas is a terrorist organisation that committed the
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most barbaric , the most most barbaric, the most depraved, the most disgusting thing terrorist attack ever perpetrated against israel . perpetrated against israel. israel should absolutely go and hunt down these animals who are responsible. no ifs, no buts . responsible. no ifs, no buts. and i'll tell you this, patrick. there is no peace in the middle east with hamas. hamas peace can only occur if hamas is eradicated . and you'll find the eradicated. and you'll find the egyptians would agree with that. they spent years trying to do the same thing and manage to get them out of egypt. now, that's them out of egypt. now, that's the problem here, is that this isn't about us feeling good about ourselves. firstly, there are not swarms of palace estonian refugees trying to escape from anywhere but gaza . escape from anywhere but gaza. the immediate region and the united nations high commissioner for refugees and the icrc will say that the best outcome from a situation like this is that refugees stay within the region and then are facilitated to move back as soon as possible as most
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actually want to do. now, i reiterate , if we just fall over reiterate, if we just fall over ourselves trying to feel good about opening up these these corridors , we are going to make corridors, we are going to make enemies of egypt and jordan who want them to stay in the area anyway because they don't want the be moved the palestinians to be moved away. and we i tell you now, we would opening the doors to a massive , massive national massive, massive national security risk that's park and jordan both recognised because i'll bring shobin on on exactly that point. >> look i think for a lot of people that's the actual concern, isn't it, that it would be a huge national security risk and that's why we need to have a scheme we don't have any scheme because we don't have any schemes. scheme because we don't have any sch everyone's closing their >> everyone's closing their doors, a few weeks, a doors, give it a few weeks, a few months. we're going to have boatloads crossing the palestinians, crossing the channel somehow and channel and because somehow and it's to be young men, it's all going to be young men, it's all going to be young men, it's all going be fighting it's all going to be fighting age as the media to age men as the media likes to call because they're call them, because they're disabled. the women, disabled. the babies, the women, they're not going to making they're not going to be making those of course, those journeys. of course, that's and then that's going to happen. and then we'll have to accept them, whoever because whoever they are, because of course, won't
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course, international law won't allow them back to allow to us send them back to gaza the situation we're in. gaza and the situation we're in. so we'll have to then so of course we'll have to then let stay. not open up let them stay. why not open up a scheme, send flights there like we did with afghanistan, like we did ukraine? decide did with ukraine? we can decide who to bring bring the who we want to bring bring the women, bring the babies, bring the the people the children, bring the people on support hospitals. the children, bring the people on that's port hospitals. the children, bring the people on that's the. hospitals. the children, bring the people on that's the pointiospitals. the children, bring the people on that's the point of pitals. the children, bring the people on that's the point of these and that's the point of these schemes. so then we've got to get them back. >> egypt and jordan the >> and egypt and jordan and the whole middle east would whole of the middle east would oppose on that because the oppose you on that because the whole the middle east wants whole of the middle east wants the stay there the palestinians to stay there because save because they want to save safeguard the concept of a palestinian homeland, which i support, two state solution. support, a two state solution. that's if that's not going to happen if all the palestinians leave on irb.com can we decide irb.com can we just decide who we mean, i don't think it >> i mean, i don't think it makes are we really letting makes it. are we really letting jordan egypt our jordan and egypt dictate our foreign our foreign policy? and our humanitarian is that humanitarian policy? is that really the reason we egypt, really the main reason we egypt, might against maybe might turn against us? maybe they know the situation a great deal than we because deal better than we do because they are together they they are they are together hosts of six and with lebanon , 6 hosts of six and with lebanon, 6 million palestinians, they are neighbouring countries. >> they know the problems and we
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should not be trying to second guess them on the basis of our liberal open door policy. that actually puts this nation at risk. we've already seen berlin tonight, berlin tonight is an example with that. >> what egypt and lebanon are not part of the equation. the point is we know the situation in gaza should we help those people? should save lives people? should we save the lives of those that's of those children? that's exactly i'm saying . it exactly what i'm saying. it doesn't what egypt. it's doesn't matter what egypt. it's not way. not that way. >> that way. >> not that way. >> not that way. >> but what do we just >> okay. but what do we just wait until the men come over on boats? i'm quite inclined to keep going, actually. keep this going, actually. henry. on. what do henry. henry, go on. what do you. you only women? you. would you only take women? what about just women and children, i wouldn't take children, henry? i wouldn't take anybody gaza. children, henry? i wouldn't take anyand' gaza. children, henry? i wouldn't take anyand the gaza. children, henry? i wouldn't take anyand the reasonrza. children, henry? i wouldn't take anyand the reason ia. children, henry? i wouldn't take anyand the reason i wouldn't is >> and the reason i wouldn't is because. because what got because. because what we've got to work with the israelis to do is work with the israelis to. to prevent civilian casualties. we've got to get as now biden has made an agreement with israel that now food and water will be allowed in, even not fuel won't because it'll go straight into the hamas war effort. but they are doing what they can to safeguard civilians. what we've got to do is keep
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them in the area. we've got to make sure that this conflict doesn't spread, that the civilian casualties don't get any worse. and we've got to then find a long solution to find a long term solution to this. we will undermine any long term solution if we bring these people of the region. okay people out of the region. okay shapps we are going to have to leave it there. >> afraid, but thank you. >> i'm afraid, but thank you. that was a proper clash. i love it. love to see it. thank you very, very much. it's dr. shoaib khan there, rights lawyer very, very much. it's dr. shoaib kha|border, rights lawyer very, very much. it's dr. shoaib kha|border, expert lawyer very, very much. it's dr. shoaib kha|border, expert henryr very, very much. it's dr. shoaib kha|bor|er, expert henryr very, very much. it's dr. shoaib kha|bor| mean, expert henryr very, very much. it's dr. shoaib kha|bor| mean, completelyenryr very, very much. it's dr. shoaib kha|bor| mean, completely polar bolton. i mean, completely polar opposite views. great stuff. so who agree with? rishi who do you agree with? as rishi sunak if he will commit sunak is asked if he will commit to creating a ukraine style scheme, palestinian refugees scheme, are palestinian refugees britain's responsibility let's britain's responsibility? let's go first. will's been go to twitter first. will's been on.thank go to twitter first. will's been on. thank you. well, he says no, they of they are the responsibility of they are the responsibility of the mega rich the arab countries. mega rich countries saudi arabia countries like saudi arabia should working out evacuation should be working out evacuation plans and taking refugees. well, should be working out evacuation plalwaysi taking refugees. well, should be working out evacuation plalways amazes refugees. well, should be working out evacuation plalways amazes me. gees. well, should be working out evacuation plalways amazes me. lees. well, should be working out evacuation plalways amazes me. i kind iiell, should be working out evacuation plalways amazes me. i kind ofl, it always amazes me. i kind of say that tongue in cheek. how little some of these arab countries protect their countries do to protect their own andrew on twitter own people. andrew on twitter says sunak work on says sunak needs to work on stopping boats before stopping the small boats before we about any we even think about taking any refugees from gaza. and johnny
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on twitter says, yes , it is our on twitter says, yes, it is our responsibility. we have loads of room and resources to help our fellow man. johnny hey , look, fellow man. johnny hey, look, it's a view and maybe you live in a different part of the country to me. maybe you live in a different part of the country to a lot of people. maybe you do have room. okay. i know a lot of people i know a lot of people do. i know a lot of people do. i know a lot of people don't. but i respect your view. johnny now, your verdict is in. 6% of you agree that palestinian refugees are britain's responsibility. can i just polls just say even one of our polls i say stonking victory. 94% of you say stonking victory. 94% of you say they are not our responsibility. so there we are. the verdict is in and no doubt people will be hoping that people will be hoping that people listening to us here. people are listening to us here. rishi sunak is listening to you, a lot of the gb news viewers. but coming up, after a trans fencer becomes a world champion, are we seeing yet another jab? see what we did there at women's sport ? deputy tory chairman lee sport? deputy tory chairman lee anderson will deliver his cutting analysis of that and more of the day's biggest stories that's he's in the stories that's live. he's in the
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studio with me very, very shortly . and of course, after shortly. and of course, after 500 people are killed in a hospital blast in gaza, the leader of the free world, joe biden, doddery sleepy joe arrived in tel aviv today to pledge for israel . pledge his support for israel. but is that walking zombie capable of handling this crisis or dnve capable of handling this crisis or drive us towards or could he drive us towards world war iii? nigel farage has got his blistering analysis and thatis got his blistering analysis and that is coming your way in just a sec
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six till 930. right >> red wall, rottweiler, lee anderson coming up very shortly. but first, it's time for gb news very own nigel farage. and as fears mount that the conflict between israel and hamas could descend into world war iii, the leader of the free world, joe biden, jetted into israel today on a high stakes trip. his visit comes just hours after a hospital in gaza was bombed, killing reportedly 500 people. with a row erupting as to who was actually responsible for that blast. well, the president weighed in, didn't it? he weighed in, didn't it? he weighed in, didn't it? he weighed in on that dispute today. but in typical biden style, his choice of words raised eyebrows. i have a watch and listen to this. >> i was deeply saddened and outraged by the explosion at the hospital in gaza yesterday. and based on what i've seen, it appears as though it was done by the other team . not not you . the other team. not not you. >> oh, sorry. i was just in my joe biden impression. so nigel joins me now is the doddery president capable of handling
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this crisis, do you think, or could it drive us towards world war iii? >> just shows you what a great name donald trump pick for him when he said sleepy joe, doesn't it look to use the word the phrase the other team ? i mean, phrase the other team? i mean, what is this, a game of football or is there some moral equivalence between hamas and the elected government of israel? because that's what it sounded like. it was an extraordinarily inappropriate use of that word, though . it was use of that word, though. it was interesting, wasn't it, that it was showed you that american intelligence had sussed out that actually the ten rockets that were fired at 6:59 pm. from a cemetery close to the hospital , cemetery close to the hospital, that it was one of those rockets that it was one of those rockets that crashed into the side of the hospital into that car park. he was doddery at another point in that press conference, he lost his way completely and just pretended , oh, there isn't time pretended, oh, there isn't time to finish the story. you know
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what? i don't believe for one minute that putin would have invaded ukraine if we had a strong president in the usa. i don't believe hamas would have done what they'd done. if we had a strong president in the usa. and i think that biden has made the world ever since that fateful withdrawal from afghanistan, leaving behind $85 billion worth of good american military equipment. i think ever since that moment, the world has become a much more dangerous place . now, become a much more dangerous place. now, i'm become a much more dangerous place . now, i'm not become a much more dangerous place. now, i'm not for one moment going to talk about it spiralling into world war three. i think that's irresponsible. well, but is there a danger that israel could face a war now on two fronts? yes i think that's very real. and if you get to the bottom of this, biden has spent much of the last 15 years in encouraging deals with iran on the iran nuclear deal. you know, we free up tens of billions of
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dollars in exchange for which iran do not continue with their nuclear program. well they have continued with the program and they've used the money to fund hamas and hezbollah. and he is very, very responsible for much of what has gone on. >> yeah, it's interesting, actually. well, we're all looking at how joe biden's going to be able to handle this going fonnard. what's the potential for escalation? maybe the bigger question joe question should be, has joe biden calls out? biden calls this out? >> no, i believe has. and >> no, i believe he has. and that's words of support that's why his words of support for israel, for me, frankly, ring a little bit hollow . the ring a little bit hollow. the world is a far less safe place for joe biden. and of course, the next big one is going to be when china invades taiwan , which when china invades taiwan, which on current projections will be next year. yeah well, you know, this is kind of why i'm saying is he in part anyway potentially responsible for the at least at least the possibility of world war three. >> but we don't need to exaggerate, partly because the world doesn't need more world doesn't need any more ramping it's already got ramping up than it's already got . going to turn now,
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. i'm just going to turn now, nigel, to this incident that you mentioned hospital mentioned there. this hospital in yesterday. once again , in gaza yesterday. once again, the bbc has found itself in hot water over its reporting of the conflict. they jumped the gun, for want of a better phrase, and immediately blamed israel for the explosion, despite both hamas and the israelis denying responsibility. let's just have a look and a listen. a little look and a listen. >> know, it hard to see >> you know, it is hard to see what else this could be really key given the size of the explosion , an other than an explosion, an other than an israeli airstrike or several airstrikes . ai rstri kes. >> as you airstrikes. >> as you know , nigel, i was >> as you know, nigel, i was watching al jazeera , believe it watching al jazeera, believe it or not, live when this happened . or not, live when this happened. right. and they had a camera in the foyer of the hospital. and i'm not joking now. they were dragging bodies in front of the camera. is all on live camera. this is all on live television. no censoring , television. no censoring, nothing, pulses , nothing, checking for pulses, shouting about israel, all of this stuff . you know, you might this stuff. you know, you might expect that al jazeera, but expect that from al jazeera, but you expect of you wouldn't expect this kind of thing from the bbc. or would you? >> the bbc have got themselves really into terrible mess over really into a terrible mess over all of this . since the 7th of
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all of this. since the 7th of october. their true prejudices have come out. october. their true prejudices have come out . and amazing, you have come out. and amazing, you know, john simpson , regarded as know, john simpson, regarded as one of the great bbc veterans, you know , even he puts out you know, even he puts out messages saying it's not for the to bbc take sides, which of course , is why they won't say course, is why they won't say that hamas are a terrorist organisation , even though organisation, even though they're proscribed by the british government. and i think this has done the bbc simple , this has done the bbc simple, the most enormous damage , though the most enormous damage, though fair to say sky news are equally in the same boat. our national broadcaster and actually those three letters bbc around the world have represented something quite great about our country over the last century, but they are now in very, very serious decline and looking deeply partisan . partisan. >> and i've got a statement from the bbc. i'll read that in a second. but before i do that, nigel, you know, some of the latest opinion polling i found quite startling, actually, which is that there are certainly when you down there
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you break it down by age, there are a of people who say they are a lot of people who say they don't know what side they're on in britain when it comes to israel. and hamas, really israel and that terror group, hamas. are you concerned about what that actually means for britain at the moment? >> i'm not that concerned that a large number of people don't know , because the history of know, because the history of this region is deeply complicated. and, you know , we complicated. and, you know, we hear about the golan heights and we hear about the west bank and it's why the first monday i was on after . the 7th of october on after. the 7th of october attacks, i put a big map up on the wall to try and point to people where these places were. if you don't know, you don't understand it. it's better not to say what i think is more alarming. are the number of people who genuinely believe that israel is occupying gaza. they withdrew from their donkeys
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years ago and yet through the education system , through the education system, through the university system , through the university system, through the all pervasive left , who of all pervasive left, who of course, loathe israel with a passion . we have a lot of young passion. we have a lot of young people who have been seriously misguided. so support for the sovereign state of israel is probably weaker now in the uk than it's been at any point since 1948. >> i think it's interesting. we started, didn't we, about talking about joe biden's use of football language. it came from the other team . depressingly, i the other team. depressingly, i think that the younger generation view israel and gaza , generation view israel and gaza, israel, palestine, israel, hamas really as some kind of football match. and they take they take sides. they take they pick a team regardless of the facts, which actually do matter when it comes to all of this. nigel thank you very much for your time as ever. always an absolute pleasure. am pleasure. great stuff. i am going to that bbc going to go to that bbc statement now because the spokesperson said this. we reject about reject these claims about our coverage. watching,
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coverage. anyone watching, listening to or reading it can see that we have both see that we have set out both sides competing claims about the attack. this is about the hospital attack, by the way. clearly saying clearly showing who is saying them and what we do or don't know. one of the main problems when it comes to the bbc's coverage is that when you read things like palace lines, health ministry and they are quoted , ministry and they are quoted, that's hamas, right? so hamas is in charge of gaza. so when they quote things like the health the health ministry has said this, i mean, that is, as some would argue, terrorist propaganda . so argue, terrorist propaganda. so when the bbc write a headline that says an israeli missile strike has killed a strike has killed 500 at a hospital in gaza, comma says palestine's health ministry, you do have to take that with a pinch of salt, don't you? but coming up, after pro—palestinian activists desecrated the cenotaph and a rally on saturday are 60, tory mps write to urge sadiq khan to ban protests at the site. that's right. mps have now found their bottle and they're saying that we should
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ban protests by our war memorial. my panel of top pundits will debate that very shortly. but right next, after a trans fencer becomes a world champion , are we seeing yet champion, are we seeing yet another jab champion, are we seeing yet anotherjab at champion, are we seeing yet another jab at women's sport deputy tory chairman lee anderson will deliver his sharp analysis live in the studio in just a few
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time that's well, very shortly, i'll be speaking to the man who bred the first ever xl bully dogs. the first ever dog. these controversial beasts, some of the column loveable rogues, they say. it's time for say. but first, it's time for our red wall rottweiler. it's lee veteran lee anderson and the veteran fencing championships has fencing world championships has any a trans any angled after after a trans competitor the title against competitor won the title against another woman another biological woman or sorry, biological sorry, other biological woman. america's was allowed america's liz kucab was allowed to and ultimately to compete and ultimately triumphed in the female division after fencing changed
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after the us fencing changed their last year. but the their policy last year. but the swimmer and activist riley gaines has denounced the victory, saying winning victory, saying that winning a title as a male in the women's category doesn't make you a champion , it makes you an champion, it makes you an entitled cheat. this comes after british jujitsu were also slammed for allowing trans women into the female category. i must say, i find that particularly egregious. no, seriously, because then you just end up with men beating women up. right. so anderson joins me right. so lee anderson joins me now. never sit on the now. you'll never sit on the fence, you? is this person fence, will you? is this person a cheat? >> and for anybody >> yes. and for anybody listening on on radio tonight, patrick, photo we've just patrick, that photo we've just seen, is a man . it's seen, that is a man. it's basically man. look you know, basically a man. look you know, in the when i was growing in the 70s when i was growing up, used to have these up, we used to have these problems with the olympic games and championships where on and world championships where on some occasions didn't know some occasions we didn't know whether the shot whether the russian shot putters, the east german shot putters, the east german shot putters were a man or a woman, and they to have to a and they used to have to have a sex test, basic sex test, sex test, a basic sex test, which was have a look down below. these days it doesn't below. but these days it doesn't matter. a bloke can turn up, put a on better lip in a wig
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a frock on better lip in a wig and turn up in a women's championships and compete with women. fair. it's women. it's not fair. it's cheating. and like i said in my tweet , i cheating. and like i said in my tweet, i think cheating. and like i said in my tweet , i think was cheating. and like i said in my tweet, i think was this tweet, i think it was this morning yesterday , you know, morning or yesterday, you know, in or 30 years time, we could in 20 or 30 years time, we could end with an olympic games or end up with an olympic games or world with world championships with no biological yeah, biological women there. yeah, it'll all competing it'll all be men competing against it's absolutely against women. it's absolutely not. be ashamed of not. they should be ashamed of themselves. time for these themselves. it's time for these sporting sort this out. >> yeah, i that is what >> yeah, i mean, that is what we're going to up with we're going to end up with because ultimately going to because ultimately it's going to come to down peak physical performance athletics performance and in an athletics tournament , performance and in an athletics tournament, men more tournament, men are more athletic than women. >> if we had if the >> well, if we had if the olympic games tomorrow was all about strength and ability and pace and strength and there was no women's events and no men's events, there would be no women there, no, wouldn't at all. >> no. i think when it comes to like fencing, i get is a it's an extreme sport in the sense that it involves a sword, but they are all geared up, etcetera. things like jujitsu or mma or boxing. that is a man boxing. yeah, that is a man beating a woman up on national television. i find that absolutely disgusting.
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>> thing is, patrick, >> and the thing is, patrick, you know, imagine having a daughter , a young girl was daughter, a young girl was training a particular sport, training for a particular sport, maybe like maybe swimming or something like that from the age of 4 or 5 years old. puts the in, years old. puts the hours in, puts in for 12 puts the shifts in for ten, 12 years, and then, hey presto, 12 years, and then, hey presto, 12 years later, some bloke turns up in a dressing room, jumps into pool them beats them by pool with them and beats them by by full as by off at pool, full tackle as well. full tackle. well. yeah. full tackle. >> know, i find that >> you know, i find that absolutely astonishing that you could that i could be in that situation. i mean, the showers alone mean, even the showers alone pose because you pose a danger because before you started competing. >> is the argument >> well, this is the argument i have with people, you know, when they transphobic i they call me transphobic or i say, it's not transphobic. say, no, it's not transphobic. you not want bloke turning you do not want a bloke turning up swimming changing room up in a swimming changing room next a young getting next to a young girl, getting all his bits. >> no, because that's basic >> no, no. because that's basic common sense. >> but we know back in my >> but we can't know back in my day, they'd been locked up day, they'd have been locked up for well, well, you know, >> well, yeah, well, you know, it's not beyond the realms of possibility them possibility that some of them should a should today. but a spokesperson. an a spokesman? or is fencing usa is it for usa fencing said usa fencing proudly stands with liz kokab celebrates her kokab and celebrates her continued the highest continued success at the highest levels fencing. are levels of fencing. we are committed an
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committed to fostering an inclusive environment that respects all athletes, regardless of gender identity . regardless of gender identity. and of course, this indeed just is just some trans people. not every single trans person wants to compete in these kind of things or indeed poses a danger to anybody. in fact, the vast majority of them are completely fine. but in football, lee england midfielder and saudi salah henderson was booed salah jordan henderson was booed again night by supporters again last night by supporters when he to the field when he took to the field against italy . ex liverpool star against italy. ex liverpool star has been outspoken lgbt has been outspoken on lgbt rights but faced criticism for joining league in saudi arabia joining a league in saudi arabia where homosexuality be where homosexuality can be punishable death. yeah, here punishable by death. yeah, here he . he's interviewed he is. he's interviewed before the match. >> having someone like myself with with the values that i have , uh, in saudi arabia is only a good thing . oh good thing. oh >> oh, he's doubled down. is he, anderson? >> hypocrite. well, he needs to shut up, basically. i mean, i think he's been a great footballer, but he's actually making himself look a little bit of a fool, you know, it's all
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well and good putting your rainbow laces and virtue rainbow laces in and virtue signalling and saying and signalling and saying this and that. books that. but when the big books come on your door, come knocking on your door, patrick, principles to patrick, it's principles seem to go the is over there go out the window is over there earning fortune. and i don't earning a fortune. and i don't fault him that. but do not fault him for that. but do not be a hypocrite. do not be in the same mould your gary same mould as your gary neville's your and neville's and your and your and your lineker because people your gary lineker because people have a lot of respect for have lost a lot of respect for jordan over this. >> as well it was >> i thought as well it was interesting were in interesting when we were in qatar, you know, that that qatar, you know, that was that took absolute biscuit. took the absolute biscuit. you're playing built you're playing in stadiums built by can by slaves where women can essentially be, you know, battered for a variety battered to death for a variety of different crimes which aren't really got really crimes. and you've got them sitting and now it them sitting there. and now it turns that apparently turns out that apparently hamas, the hamas, are based the leaders of hamas, are based in not only that in qatar. so not only was that country as as we already country as bad as we already thought it was, now got thought it was, you've now got leaders terror leaders of this terror organisation. out i've organisation. it turns out i've just living in qatar. we're just been living in qatar. we're probably watching probably in the stadium watching the games. it's remarkable. >> well, it is. i mean, some of these ex—footballers, they are actually embarrassment. they actually an embarrassment. they are just a bunch overpaid are just a bunch of overpaid hypocrites. one thing hypocrites. they say one thing and like say, when and do another. like i say, when the big books come knocking on
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and do another. like i say, when the door, ooks come knocking on and do another. like i say, when the door, the; come knocking on and do another. like i say, when the door, the principles cking on the door, the principles go straight out the window. patrick, look, finally, lee, i've got to get your on this. >> it's a some people call it a remoaner rag, not me, of course. the european has put the new european has put together a spiteful list of people supposedly people britain could supposedly do without. unsurprisingly, they're lee , they're all right wing and lee, you're number four. there you go. you feel that? go. how do you feel about that? >> i'm disappointed that go. how do you feel about that? >> just i'm disappointed that go. how do you feel about that? >> just numberappointed that go. how do you feel about that? >> just number four, nted that go. how do you feel about that? >> just number four, actually. i'm just number four, actually. but is these lists but the good news is these lists are not uncommon. i've been on a few of these lists, and once again, i've been beat. prince andrew and people like that. so look, next year, i mean, suella one suella number one. >> and what you saw there was gb news be number two, think news will be number two, i think number twice. so you're on number only twice. so you're on it twice you are. >> and good company. >> and i'm in good company. jacob rees—mogg's there as jacob rees—mogg's on there as well. i think really well. i think i think really i mean not unfair on newly mean that's not unfair on newly you know don't get me wrong. >> i mean it's really unfair. >> but it's a great list. >> but it's a great list. >> and my parents are incredibly proud. they buzz in. you look proud. they buzz in. if you look here, dad, wherever here, mom, dad, wherever you are. yeah, i'm here. are. yeah, yeah, yeah, i'm here. yeah, yeah. are. yeah, yeah, yeah, i'm here. yeai, yeah. are. yeah, yeah, yeah, i'm here. yeai mean, yeah. are. yeah, yeah, yeah, i'm here. yeai mean, you|. are. yeah, yeah, yeah, i'm here. yeai mean, you owe it all to >> i mean, you owe it all to them. really >> in a way, it's a team game.
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it's a team game. patrick, i'm so proud. >> but what do you think about? i mean, can you imagine if we publish? publish something publish? if we publish something like outrage, absolute outrage? >> think ofcom would >> i think ofcom would be knocking door, wouldn't knocking on the door, wouldn't they? saying it's they? they'd be saying it's absolutely it's absolutely outrageous. it's ridiculous. these ridiculous. but you know, these people have got nothing else better do. actually better to do. actually those people i mean, i'd people on that list. i mean, i'd love to with them, all of love to go out with them, all of them. there's some people them. there's some great people on mean, there's a few on there. i mean, there's a few clowns there, but of clowns on there, but most of them are pretty. >> there are few clowns. yeah, >> there are a few clowns. yeah, there are. there are a few. i mean, it's quite it's quite a long but i mean, yeah, the long list, but i mean, yeah, the majority i suspect you majority of them, i suspect you have out. have quite a good night out. >> yeah, good company. >> yeah, i'm in good company. invite for a dinner party. >> you know what? maybe we should i don't know about should do? i, i don't know about you, i can. can sense you, but i can. i can sense a show christmas special. anyone russell brand is on there. >> i won't bother with him. >> i won't bother with him. >> there are a few >> no, i mean, there are a few out out. wrong ones. right out and out. wrong ones. right but. seem all right. >> like the bbc. one's out. right. >> liifine.e bbc. one's out. we're fine. >> yeah. yeah allegedly for russell course, we to >> yeah. yeah allegedly for rus:allegedly course, we to >> yeah. yeah allegedly for rus:allegedly for course, we to >> yeah. yeah allegedly for rus:allegedly for russell we to >> yeah. yeah allegedly for rus:allegedly for russell lee. :0 say allegedly for russell lee. thank much. that's lee thank you very much. that's lee anderson the chair anderson there. the deputy chair of the conservative party. now coming fatal
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coming up after a spate of fatal attacks american xl attacks involving american xl bully dogs, is it right that rishi bans breed rishi sunak bans the breed by 2025 so? 2025 as he set out to do so? i will be speaking genuinely to the created the man who actually created this breed, dave wilson. he joins america joins me live from america to defend possibly defend these dogs and possibly his actions as well a little his own actions as well a little bit tonight. but next, bit later tonight. but next, after activists after pro—palestinian activists desecrated after pro—palestinian activists desecrat saturday, after pro—palestinian activists desecratsaturday, are 60 rally on saturday, are 60 conservative mps write to urge sadiq khan to ban protest at the memorial. my panel of top pundits will be getting stuck right into that very, very shortly. don't you dare move . shortly. don't you dare move. >> hi there. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast storm babette arrives over the next 24 hours, bringing with it exceptional rainfall for eastern scotland in particular. red warning has been issued. here's babette for the rest of wednesday , moving into central wednesday, moving into central parts of the uk. it's been a wet day for southern areas, but that rains now moving into north wales. the midlands , northern wales. the midlands, northern england and northern ireland. overnight especially heavy across northern ireland, with risk of 30 to 50 or even 60mm by
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the end of the night. and so that could cause some disruption by othennise it's drying by dawn. othennise it's drying up a little towards the south. it stays blustery, it stays cloudy and as result, it's cloudy and as a result, it's going to a mild start to going to be a mild start to thursday , but it going to be thursday, but it is going to be an start for many an unpleasant start for many wet and strong gusts and windy weather, strong gusts of associated with storm of wind associated with storm babette, but then increasingly wet and windy for central and northern scotland in particular with places such 70 or even with in places such 70 or even 80 mile per hour wind gusts. and that wind driving heavy and persistent rain into eastern scotland in particular. angus and aberdeenshire seeing that rainfall really build up over the next 48 hours, up until the weekend with in places 200 to 250mm of rainfall in 1 or 2 spots could see twice a october's average rainfall fall in just a few days. that would cause serious amounts of flooding combined with strong winds. that's why there's a red warning. stay up to
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>> it's 10 pm. i'm patrick christys and this is gb news tonight. now 60 conservative mps demand action over this disgusting desecration of the cenotaph. and with sadiq khan being the being urged to protect the sacred for britain's sacred memorial for britain's fallen soldiers after it was disgracefully taken over by rabid pro—palestinian protesters, should the london mayor heed their calls to ban on protests at the cenotaph ? that's protests at the cenotaph? that's the big debate, and that's with my leading panel of pundits, next. and tonight, i am joined by christine hamilton . we've got by christine hamilton. we've got adam brooks, and we've got matthew as well. what's matthew lazar as well. what's not plus, get this with not to love? plus, get this with xl dogs due to be banned xl bully dogs due to be banned in the uk after a string of fatal attacks, i'm joined live from the united states by a bloke called dave wilson , who bloke called dave wilson, who actually bred the first xl bully back in the 1990s. this is his fault . no, back in the 1990s. this is his fault. no, not quite. but to ask if he holds himself responsible
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in any way for the panic brought to british streets by dangerous dogs. and frankly, just get his take what created , but take on what he's created, but also with shoplifter also coming up with shoplifter costing british shops almost £1 billion. last year, our toothless police still seem incapable of tackling the crime wave. so is britain's first private police force , which has private police force, which has successfully prosecuted almost 300 thieves already. the answer to this scourge of shoplifting . to this scourge of shoplifting. we will debate that in our media buzz. and later in the show, we welcome back esteemed royal biographer . it's the wonderful biographer. it's the wonderful angela levin offering her unfiltered analysis of harry and meghan's latest climate hypocnsy meghan's latest climate hypocrisy and tackling rumours that one of the pair has started house hunting back in the uk. there'll also be a new two greatest britain and union jackass crown before the night is out and the first of tomorrow's newspapers are well, the hot off the press. i've got some of them right here in front of me right now. they're the of me right now. they're on the way. right after the way. but that's right after the news. we're polly middlehurst .
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news. we're polly middlehurst. >> patrick, thank you. well, the top story this evening is that the us president says egypt will open the rafah border crossing . open the rafah border crossing. that'll mean they'll allow 20 trucks carrying humanitarian aid into gaza . earlier, joe biden into gaza. earlier, joe biden announced $100 million of new us funding for that aid to get into gaza and the west bank president biden's visit to israel was meant to prevent an escalation of the conflict in the region. but after last night's bombing of the hospital in gaza , planned of the hospital in gaza, planned meetings to stop that spreading with regional leaders have had to be cancelled. he's now on his way back to the united states , way back to the united states, as you are a jewish state, but you're also a democracy unlike the united states, you don't live by the rules of terrorists. >> you live by the rule of law. and when conflicts flare , you and when conflicts flare, you live by the law of war is what sets us apart from the terrorists. because we believe
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in the fundamental dignity of every human life. it israeli, palestinian , arab, jew , muslim, palestinian, arab, jew, muslim, christian, everyone . it can't christian, everyone. it can't give up. what makes you who you are . if you give up. what makes you who you are. if you give give up. what makes you who you are . if you give that give up. what makes you who you are. if you give that up , give up. what makes you who you are . if you give that up , then are. if you give that up, then the terrorists win and we can never let them win . never let them win. >> lost in israel. the president supported the israeli defence forces claims today that the explosion at the hospital in gaza last night was caused by a failed rocket attack on israel by another terror group operating inside gaza. palestinian islamic jihad officials in gaza, however, are still blaming the israelis for the explosion, which they say killed 500 people. richie sunak today described the hospital explosion as shocking, but he called for calm heads and said intelligence analysts would establish exactly what happened . establish exactly what happened. and now hundreds of palestine pro—palestine protesters have been gathering outside downing street tonight. people have been
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holding up placards calling for an end to the massacre of civilians . the crowd also lit civilians. the crowd also lit candles for the victims of last night's explosion at the hospital . in other news today, hospital. in other news today, milk, cheese and egg prices fell last month , easing pressure at last month, easing pressure at the supermarket tills, but fuel pnces the supermarket tills, but fuel prices rose sharply. that comes as the uk's overall inflation remained at 6.7, despite expectations it would fall again, according to the office for national statistics , oil for national statistics, oil pnces for national statistics, oil prices are higher because of the war in ukraine and now events in israel and palestine have sparked further increases . and sparked further increases. and finally, a red weather warning for rain has been issued by the met office for parts of scotland, that means very dangerous weather is on its way. extend lviv flooding is likely to pose a risk to life as well. the weather warning running from tomorrow until noon on friday, but storm barbette is barrelling in. it has already hit the republic of ireland today. we've
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seen flooding in county cork and it has also come to the english coastline by devon with gb news across the uk on tv in your car on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. this is britain's news channel . channel. >> well, it's tomorrow's news tonight. now in our media buzz. and let's kick off with the very first look. yes let's kick off with the very first look at our front pages. hot off the press. we're going in with the metro . we're going in with the metro. yeah, a massive story. massive story on the front of the metro. this 11 years for £50 million uk dinghy kingpin . i'm laughing so dinghy kingpin. i'm laughing so i'm not crying, to be honest with you. this guy who came over from iran claimed asylum himself, turned out to be living in ilford in east london. they caught him for being part of bringing 10,000 people across the channel, which was a fifth of the entire number of people
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who came across the channel in that year. he was arrested and given 11 years, just 11 years. he secretly ran a £50 million smuggling network. let's be honest, most of that money, i would imagine, is shoved away in bank accounts that we've got nothing with. so this guy. nothing to do with. so this guy. well, way. well, let me put it this way. all right. would you or would you seven prison you not do seven years in prison for like £20 million? i mean, i would i'll be honest with you. we're also going to be talking about the independent. yes. here we go. biden blames the other team for hospital horror. copped it a lot with this. biden us president backs israel's assertion that the deadly hospital was caused by hospital blast was caused by errant fired errant rocket fired by terrorists. secures agreement terrorists. he secures agreement for aid convoys to be allowed over the border . that's over the border. that's interesting as well. we are now going to get more humanitarian aid into that bit of gaza on the provision that hamas doesn't like it. well good luck with that. as far as i'm concerned, the gaza health ministry claims that 471 people were killed in
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what they are calling an israeli massacre at that hospital. let's go over to the eye now. mortgage hope leads the eye uk interest rate hike. unlike experts predict. well, this is all because of the inflation rate. the bank of england's base rate looks set to stay at 5.25. the ise panel of economists believes, well , if they're believes, well, if they're anything like the other economic experts that we've had in this country for a while, then they're obviously wrong. but offering reprieve to offering a welcome reprieve to homeowners 14 successive homeowners after 14 successive increases , i'm not sure that's a increases, i'm not sure that's a reprieve. is it? we want to see a reduction, don't we? there we go. they are the top story for the eye. there is a picture story hospital blast, not israel insists the us. so those are the three front pages. is that they have dropped so far. now with me tonight for the media buzz is the panel author and broadcaster christine hamilton. we've got businessman and activist adam brooks party brooks and former labour party adviser matthew lanza . so let's
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adviser matthew lanza. so let's get stuck into our big debate, shall we? 60 conservative mps are calling on sadiq khan, the mayor of london, to ban pro protests at the cenotaph after pro—palestinian activists sparked outrage last week . a sparked outrage last week. a stage for the palestine solidarity campaign was placed directly next to the memorial honounng directly next to the memorial honouring britain's war dead on saturday as part of a march down whitehall that also saw a mob chasing israel supporter allegedly threatening to behead him. vile anti—semitic chants and a statue of king george the fourth were vandalised with free palestine graffiti in response to those scenes, the common sense group of conservatives is writing to the mayor of london, demanding him to , quote, stop demanding him to, quote, stop extremists parading through the capital streets, chants will be a fine thing. earlier tonight, we spoke to people at another pro—palestine protest taking place outside downing street. so we asked them whether or not israel has a right to defend itself . this is what some of itself. this is what some of them had to tell us. >> i just hope that the world
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leaders understand and what's happening is genocide in gaza. >> it's simple free palestine. it's as simple as that. >> as a muslim, i understand that zionism and zionism , yes, that zionism and zionism, yes, they are the primary beneficiaries of islamophobia in the uk. so if we want to tackle islamophobia and muslims should be at the forefront of tackling islamophobia, also have to islamophobia, we also have to tackle zionism killing thousands and thousands of children, dropping bombs on hospitals. >> it's just unwarranted . >> it's just unwarranted. >> it's just unwarranted. >> no one really seemed to say yes , israel has the right to yes, israel has the right to defend itself. there did they? concerning stuff so should sadiq khan listen and ban protests at that sacred cenotaph site ? that sacred cenotaph site? christine hamilton, i'll start with you . should we ban protests with you. should we ban protests near the cenotaph? >> well, i was absolutely horrified by what was happening at the cenotaph. it's been a sacred site. it's a very sombre memorial to the glorious dead. thatis memorial to the glorious dead. that is from the from the wars, world wars, defending this
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country. i think it was appalling . everybody is now appalling. everybody is now saying that it wasn't my fault, guv.the saying that it wasn't my fault, guv. the mayor of london is saying he didn't do it. westminster city council is saying they approve it. saying they didn't approve it. nobody in theory, nobody approved it. in theory, there is under the metropolitan police act of wakeford 1839, you are not allowed to assemble or block the roads anywhere near parliament because you mustn't impede the mps. that is honoured in in the default. do you remember? do you remember? but it's but it's i mean you have to allow people's right to protest and people's right to march is one thing. but to do it and set up stall at the cenotaph and people say because i've put this out on twitter and people have come down on me like a tonne of bncks come down on me like a tonne of bricks saying, oh, they were just about free palestine. they weren't. they were chanting that terrible to terrible thing from the river to the jeremy the sea. et cetera. jeremy corbyn it was totally corbyn it was a totally anti—semitic gathering it anti—semitic gathering and it should never have been allowed. and i think we never want to see anything like again. okay. and i think we never want to see anywell, like again. okay. and i think we never want to see anywell, yeah again. okay. and i think we never want to see anywell, yeah , again. okay. and i think we never want to see anywell, yeah , i again. okay. and i think we never want to see anywell, yeah , i getain. okay. and i think we never want to see anywell, yeah , i get that. kay. and i think we never want to see anywell, yeah , i get that. and >> well, yeah, i get that. and obviously not everybody there was shouting anti—semitic
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things, but we can't get around the fact that a load of people were chanting the were chanting that from the river which suella river to the sea, which suella braverman came and braverman has said came out and said anti—semitic tropes. et said is anti—semitic tropes. et cetera. adam i'll go to you. you. i remember when donald trump and sadiq khan was trump came and sadiq khan was was was fine for a giant blimp of trump in a nappy to be hoisted above the capital city. i'm right in saying there was a hoo ha that he had to approve that. yeah assumption that. yeah my assumption would be he's had to approve this be that he's had to approve this as well. >> i think i donated the >> i think i donated for the counter one, which was to have a giant blimp of sadiq khan. >> sadiq did not get raised >> sadiq khan did not get raised , i can't but i , i can't remember, but i remember to it. remember donating to it. >> end of the day, if >> but at the end of the day, if it wasn't the people that it wasn't for the people that died wars this died in these wars in this country, be sat country, we wouldn't be sat here. have the here. we wouldn't have the freedoms that have, you know, freedoms that we have, you know, so we have to honour these people . it's because of them people. it's because of them that to live our that we're able to live our lives. don't care who's lives. now, i don't care who's protesting there. it's in bad taste. we've had extinction rebellion then idiots protesting there over the years. we've had
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blm and now we've had the free palestine. i don't believe anyone should disrespect this memorial. it's sacred and it needs to be stopped. and one thing i will say is i can't believe there's only 60 conservative mps that have voiced this. it's interesting, if there was a conservative party in my view, it should be all of them or the majority of them. that is a good point. >> point, >> that is a good point, actually, matthew , i'll bring actually, matthew, i'll bring you some people you in now. some of the people that that cenotaph commemorates, you in now. some of the people tha people enotaph commemorates, you in now. some of the people tha people whoxph commemorates, you in now. some of the people tha people who died ommemorates, you in now. some of the people tha people who died fightingyrates, you in now. some of the people tha people who died fighting thels, all people who died fighting the actual . absolutely right. and we actual. absolutely right. and we now have potentially some people in front of that hosting a demonstration calling about israel and i do strongly suspect some of them jews being wiped off the map that is a massive juxtaposition. >> it was incredibly disrespectful for anybody. nobody should be having a protest . a stage by the cenotaph protest. a stage by the cenotaph for those who don't know, sort of london's geography , it's the of london's geography, it's the cenotaph is actually in the middle of the actual road that is whitehall. traffic runs is whitehall. so traffic runs either it. therefore , either side of it. so therefore, lots of demonstrations. you have
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to if you're to walk past that. if you're walking down to parliament, but to walk past that. if you're waliwalhown to parliament, but to walk past that. if you're waliwalk past to parliament, but to walk past that. if you're waliwalk past it, parliament, but to walk past that. if you're waliwalk past it, youiament, but to walk past that. if you're waliwalk past it, youiamen useit you walk past it, you don't use it literal make your it as literal stage to make your point . i it as literal stage to make your point. i mean, one thing is anybody there clearly done their own cause a disservice because even if people were prepared to listen to what they were saying, the in such a the fact they did it in such a disrespectful to what, disrespectful way to what, frankly, 99 plus% of the population think clearly damaged, damaged , damaged their damaged, damaged, damaged their own cause. i mean, i thought the protest was a moment sort of slightly ludicrous. look. slightly ludicrous. so, look. yeah, think there yeah, absolutely. i think there needs must protect needs but we must protect our right . but we right to protest. but we must we must protect the cenotaph. must also protect the cenotaph. >> been on many protests, >> i've been on many protests, especially covid and such, and it's always been legal protest. >> it's always had permission to do so. someone gave permission to do this. we need to know who i think they were giving permission for the march. >> weren't. i don't think >> they weren't. i don't think anybody for anybody gave them permission for the stage. >> did. gave >> they did. nobody gave permission. they just a massive security i just say security risk can i just say that's massive risk that's a massive security risk because you've got that. >> right outside downing >> it's right outside downing street, route street, a major arterial route outside downing street. and people us all people genuinely asking us all to nobody to believe that nobody gave permission stage
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permission for a stage to be erected . i mean, could have erected. i mean, that could have been explosives . been packed full of explosives. >> the have got met >> the met have got the met police lot police have got a lot of questions answer because if questions to answer because if because the march approved, because the march was approved, because the march was approved, becthe e to because the march was approved, becthee to be closed, but for the roads to be closed, but the stage wasn't approved. but then didn't just then why didn't they just stop them? why them? you can't walk into why normally during if any, normally during the day, if any, if like van backfires if anybody's like van backfires or they've got 50 or something, they've got 50 police them in whitehall . why police on them in whitehall. why weren't they stopped? >> must have >> well, somebody must have brought in the wood. brought in all the wood. >> exactly >> it's not exactly inconspicuous, it? >> it's not exactly incl exactly. us, it? >> it's not exactly incl exactly. they it? >> it's not exactly incl exactly. they would have made >> exactly. they would have made a noise. why? >> to know is lorries >> i want to know is the lorries that stage in? that brought the stage in? >> did they pay the congestion charge ulez did sadiq charge and the ulez did sadiq khan earn from it? did he earn from it? >> maybe. there you go. we'll have to wait and right now. have to wait and see right now. look, load of this. okay, look, get a load of this. okay, so democracy is apparently alive and well, but left wing politicians welsh politicians in the welsh parliament memo. parliament haven't got the memo. after banning gb after dramatically banning gb news from the ainnaves in the south. supplied comrades elon jones, the welsh speaker , jones, the welsh speaker, announced members would no longer be able to tune into our channel, my dulcet tones because she described the broadcast as
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offensive content banning gb news from parliament tv's was supposed supported by the likes of labour's far left jenny rathbone, but plenty of furious with what they call authoritarian censorship of the free press. so look, who better to send over there than our very own ben leo fan favourite housewives favourite. he went down to the welsh parliament today try and find out why today to try and find out why they'd this and find the they'd done this and find the likes of jones and rathbone to ask for an explanation . on ask for an explanation. on >> from my perspective of we live in 2023, we're in the modern world, we're entitled to have different opinions . have different opinions. >> and in that instance, i don't understand why on earth news understand why on earth gb news has from news has been pulled from our news channels presiding channels here. the presiding officer channels here. the presiding officefrankly, be as quite frankly, would be seen as deemed shifty . deemed as very shifty. >> going to make >> people are going to make those should >> people are going to make those come should >> people are going to make those come explainld the actually come and explain to the chamber them, chamber why they've made them, because there's been comments chamber why they've made them, becau onthere's been comments chamber why they've made them, becau on therfbbczen comments chamber why they've made them, becau on therfbbc not comments chamber why they've made them, becau ontherfbbc not callingits made on the bbc not calling hamas group. hamas a terrorist group. >> going to ban the bbc >> are we going to ban the bbc in those comments? com ments? >> comments? >> don't think this seems >> i don't think so. this seems like news channel. >> thoughts on gb news being >> any thoughts on gb news being banned the senate ?
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banned from the senate? >> thoughts on the gb news >> any thoughts on the gb news ban in parliament? >> the situation at the welsh parliament and assembly? here is that we've been banging the phones all day trying to speak to those on the left side to any of those on the left side of the argument. to any of those on the left side of ilabour|ment. to any of those on the left side of ilabour played kymry to see >> labour played kymry to see what they have to say about the gb news ban and we'll keep trying to get them, especially elan the elan jones, the speaker of the house, jenny rathbone, who house, and jenny rathbone, who called gb news toxic. >> why won't she talk? i mean, everything's overlapping. >> so the next one, she's she's got an interview with, with another, um , another broadcast another, um, another broadcast company all right. >> fortunately. so she won't she won't have time. who's that? the bbc. see, every. every thing. i can't comment on that. >> at the end of the day, choice says the driver of anything in a democracy . and to ban democracy. and to ban a broadcaster that's got an ofcom licence and delivers an alternative view of things and is a mainstream broadcaster is completely undemocratic. and it's outrageous that it's been
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enforced on members and their staff . i enforced on members and their staff. i mean, enforced on members and their staff . i mean, what does it say staff. i mean, what does it say about democracy and what does it say about the welsh parliament? >> why won't miss jones or the others who have been supporting this? why won't they come out and us today even on and speak to us today or even on the an email? what's that? >> well, can't defend >> well, they can't defend their position, i mean, you position, can they? i mean, you don't you can't don't front up when you can't defend is defend your position. it is endemic censorship. endemic critic. it's censorship. we pushing for the we will be pushing for the reinstatement of gb news. but what i would your viewers what i would say to your viewers is you keep watching is make sure you keep watching gb news make difference and gb news make a difference and make heard right. make your voices heard right. >> okay. well, the instigator of the band, blind country speaker elin jones, refused to raise the israeli flag at parliament last week in the wake of the hamas atrocities. make of that what you will very quickly, panel christine. well, having spent five at the welsh five years working at the welsh parliament because my husband was i am only was a member there, i am only astonished they didn't do astonished that they didn't do thisthey are the left wing. >> they are the most left wing. et cetera. by the et cetera. et cetera. by the way, going back to an earlier they call themselves a nation of sanctuary. so let's see how many refugees they take.
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>> interesting we have on here on this channel, we have labour mps to shows. we have mps contribute to shows. we have labour mayors us exclusives labour mayors give us exclusives and these idiots in wales want to ban the channel that they're england english counterparts are part of. i mean, i'm just guessing that my welsh comrades can't hear my fantastic analysis of the events. of the day's events. >> is it. so, i mean, look, >> this is it. so, i mean, look, it's just censorship is daft and it's just censorship is daft and it think there's it makes people think there's a conspiracy i would conspiracy theory. so i would you glad been you know, i'm glad it's been led by the polite speaker. i hope that the majority that labour in the majority kicks , kicks up kicks out, you know, kicks up a fuss just makes fuss and also just makes genuinely quite pathetic. >> they're >> right? seriously they're frightened of the competition of ideas, yeah. but ideas, that's what. yeah. but there's need to be. just come there's no need to be. just come on have a chat. actually on and have a chat. and actually in often we end up in the end, very often we end up having a laugh their having a laugh about their inadequate. i'm going to >> frankly, i'm not going to appearin >> frankly, i'm not going to appear in new language appear in the new welsh language our you're going to be presenting patrick soon. >> no i will >> well exactly. yes. no i will be it'll be a nice show. be a nice show that centres nice show that mainly centres around made me desperately trying the trying and failing to learn the welsh but coming up welsh language. but coming up with shoplifting costing british shops almost £1 billion. last with shoplifting costing british shopsournost £1 billion. last with shoplifting costing british shopsour toothless.lion. last with shoplifting costing british shopsour toothless police ast with shoplifting costing british shopsour toothless police don't year, our toothless police don't actually always blame the
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police, but anyway seem incapable of tackling the crime police, but anyway seem incapeso> of tackling the crime police, but anyway seem incapeso isf tackling the crime police, but anyway seem incapeso is britain's; the crime police, but anyway seem incapeso is britain's first crime wave. so is britain's first prime police force . that's prime police force. that's right. we now have private police forces, which are successfully prosecuted, almost 300 thieves already. is that the answer to our scourge of shoplifting? my expert panel will debate that very shortly. then we might bring this lot in as well. and next, the xl bully dogs due to be banned in the uk after a string of fatal attacks . after a string of fatal attacks. i am joined by a bloke from the states, dave wilson. this is the guy who bred the first ever xl bully back in the 90s . i've got bully back in the 90s. i've got to ask him, does he hold himself responsible for the panic that's brought britain's streets by brought to britain's streets by these dogs? stay tuned .
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sunday mornings from 930 on. >> gb news. >> gb news. >> now the controversial xl bully dog breed had not been seen in the uk before 2014, but has this year been responsible for several high profile attacks that have often, tragically proved fatal? the popularity of the breed soared during covid, but their reputation for unpredictable attacks led to rishi sunak announcing a nationwide ban just last month, which will come into force from 2025. now interestingly, xl bullies don't seem to be causing the same problems in their home country . the united states, country. the united states, where the breed was originally created back in the 1990s. so dave wilson, the man who bred
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the first ever xl bully , joins the first ever xl bully, joins me live from the states tonight to, i believe, defend the dogs that he says are misunderstood . that he says are misunderstood. look, dave, thank you very much. great to have you on the show, my good man. appreciate it. my good man. i appreciate it. i've i mean, you i've got to ask, i mean, do you feel. for having do feel. thanks for having me. do you feel a bit responsible for some who've died as you feel a bit responsible for s( result who've died as you feel a bit responsible for s( result of who've died as you feel a bit responsible for s( result of dogvho've died as you feel a bit responsible for s( result of dog vho've that as a result of the dog breed that you created ? you created? >> well, just just quickly, i didn't create the first xl bully. >> i created the american bully breed, which is a breed broken up into three varieties, pocket standard and excel. they're all separated by height. and i think it needs to be clear that none of these situations you're not heanng of these situations you're not hearing any of this with the pocket american bullies. you're not hearing any of with the not hearing any of this with the standard american none standard american bullies. none of in your of that's going on in your country. and nor anywhere around the world are hearing this the world are we hearing this with variety of the with the excel variety of the american lot american bully. so i think a lot of what's happening what's of what's happening and what's proven today, you watch the proven today, if you watch the debate there's just debate today, that there's just a lot of false identity happening there's happening right now. there's a lot different dogs being
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lot of different dogs being labelled as and the actual labelled as such. and the actual data out there just it isn't accurate. and that was proven today in the debate that they had earlier today. so i mean, i do feel compassion for anybody that's been mauled by a dog. i think it's horrible. but i also don't feel that it's right to falsely label a breed for something that there's actually no accurate data to back that. >> yeah. i mean , something along >> yeah. i mean, something along the lines of 70% of fatal dog attacks in this country are attributed to xl bullies . i attributed to xl bullies. i mean, do you think that is coincidence? >> i again, i mean, we've looked at the data and the data is actually really not there to back that claim. so that claim is a false claim because it's been hasn't been proven that it hasn't been that way. so i think that the issue over there obviously , you issue over there obviously, you really to think with common really have to think with common sense. you're not hearing sense. if you're not hearing that pockets in the that the pockets in the standards of this breed are have any incidents in england whatsoever for and you're not heanng whatsoever for and you're not hearing that the xl variety of the breed is having any
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incidence anywhere around the world. there's something isolated to the uk that's going on and a lot of that is actual false identity . i mean, false identity. i mean, obviously, you have an obviously, yes, you have an influx of dogs covid. you influx of dogs during covid. you have irresponsible you have irresponsible owners, you have irresponsible owners, you have people do the wrong thing. >> well, that's. let me let me yeah, let me ask you let me ask you then, mean, you that then, dave. i mean, there kind of age old there is this kind of age old debate , is the dog's debate between, is it the dog's fault is it the owner's fault or is it the owner's fault? and i've be fault? and i've got to be honest, at about 99% of the time, it's my instinct to come down on the fat on the side of it being the owner's fault . it being the owner's fault. okay. it sounds to me like you come down, you say that 100% of the 100, because you the time. dave 100, because you can statistically prove that there's no such thing as a dangerous breed if you compare the amount of dogs versus the actual attacks breed . actual attacks of a dog breed. >> so it always falls on the owners and that's really where the laws and everything need to be the owners. you be based around the owners. you can't any can't discriminate against any one especially in our one breed, especially in our breed. can statistically breed. we can statistically prove that this isn't an aggressive at all. aggressive breed at all. >> i mean, look , i've got to >> i mean, look, i've got to dispute that because we have had
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numerous attacks recently just in the last few months that have all xl bullies. right. more all been xl bullies. right. more so than you get from golden labrador. >> i'm dog expert. i am a dog >> i'm a dog expert. i am a dog expert. and watched a lot expert. and i've watched a lot of attacks. in viewing of these attacks. and in viewing these attacks, seen some these attacks, i've seen some dogs were obviously pit dogs that were obviously pit bulls. that were bulls. i've seen dogs that were obviously so obviously mastiff crosses. so you so you think you think you have so you think you think you have so you think you think you think people have jumped on this and gone. >> that's a massive dog. we'll call xl bully. and call it an xl bully. and actually, it's not an xl bully. something involved something else has got involved there. the way . there. somewhere along the way. >> a good percentage >> i believe a good percentage of correct. yes. that it's of it is correct. yes. that it's just people running on a term , a just people running on a term, a genenc just people running on a term, a generic term, without actually having the to up and having the data to back up and say is what it really was. say this is what it really was. >> i we've got >> yes, i think we've got a couple for you. couple of headlines for you. i'll just put these to you. so this metro man mauled to this is the metro man mauled to death by two xl bullies. yeah, independent mothers screams heard boy, i can't see how heard as boy, i can't see how that was anyway. dawn neesom. xl bully. bully shot dead after bully. xl bully shot dead after mauling bully mauling owner. what an xl bully dog attack feels like grief. i imagine bad crooks are using bully dogs as weapons to avoid
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police searches. yeah. look, you get the gist , police searches. yeah. look, you get the gist, david. police searches. yeah. look, you get the gist , david. there's get the gist, david. there's a lot of these. to be fair . i lot of these. to be fair. i mean, look, i know . lot of these. to be fair. i mean, look, i know. i get it. it's headlines. i'm not trying. this isn't like some kind of gotcha right? know. gotcha moment, right? i know. it's no, no, it's just had, like. no, no, no, no, but, mean, all had >> but, i mean, you all had a debate today. you the, you >> but, i mean, you all had a debat(theiay. you the, you >> but, i mean, you all had a debat(the effortnu the, you >> but, i mean, you all had a debat(the effort and the, you >> but, i mean, you all had a debat(the effort and all1e, you >> but, i mean, you all had a debat(the effort and all thosej know, the effort and all those things today. and they actually showed they have showed that they don't have accurate data. mean, accurate data. i mean, it was pretty data pretty clear today that the data isn't because pretty clear today that the data is headline because pretty clear today that the data is headline is because pretty clear today that the data is headline is stating because pretty clear today that the data is headline is stating this:ause pretty clear today that the data is headline is stating this is se a headline is stating this is something mean there's something doesn't mean there's truth to it. like i said, truth to it. and like i said, i created this breed, just just so you understand. if this is you understand. if this breed is composed by three varieties, broken down height , how come broken down by height, how come there's attacks of the there's no attacks of the pockets? how come? that's interesting standards. >> that's interesting. okay, so . >> that's interesting. okay, so. so. so. go on. educate so. no, so. so. go on. educate me. and maybe. maybe everybody else knew this. maybe i'm just a thicko here. so only thicko here. but so the only difference you're saying between an xl bully pocket bully and an xl bully a pocket bully and whatever it was is, is just whatever else it was is, is just the is the height . it's the is the is the height. it's not nothing else . not it's nothing else. >> nothing else. >> nothing else. >> correct . >> correct. >> correct. >> so there's broken up by height. so the logic there would
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be that should be getting the be that we should be getting the same amount attacks from, you same amount of attacks from, you know, other kind of know, from the other kind of aspects of the bully dog. >> it was a dangerous breed . >> if it was a dangerous breed. >> if it was a dangerous breed. >> exactly. you would see the attacks other varieties attacks from the other varieties and see xl bully and also you would see xl bully attacks around the world if it was actually really the breed, which don't mean, which you don't see. i mean, america largest influx america has the largest influx of the world. of them anywhere in the world. and don't have this situation and we don't have this situation here in america. there's here in america. so there's something going something different going on over there. believe it's over there. and i believe it's false labelling. it's false labelling. i believe it's a culmination different a culmination of different things, false labelling of breeds. it's a lot of breeds. i believe it's a lot of inexperienced people that got dogs covid that probably dogs during covid that probably aren't responsible dog owners. you probably have an element of people doing the wrong people that are doing the wrong thing with dog, but it's. thing with their dog, but it's. >> do you do you >> do you still do you do you still them ? still breed them? >> yeah, i still breed them. but very seldomly because this my job is to go around the world. we do 7 or 8 dog shows every weekend around the world with families and kids and great. i mean, out mean, there's so much proof out there that this such docile there that this is such a docile breed it's to me, it's breed that it's to me, it's quite ridiculous to think that
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anybody would think that this breed is a dangerous breed. so there's something unique going on there i believe false on there that i believe is false labelling . labelling. >> okay. all right. look all right, look, dave, thank you very much. it's great to have you on the show. and know, you on the show. and you know, i think could dragged this think i could have dragged this for bit longer, for on quite a bit longer, actually, of actually, but we are out of time. wilson at the time. dave wilson there at the chap, bloke who created not chap, the bloke who created not just the xl bully, but a whole variety different bullies as variety of different bullies as well. coming up in well. look coming up in uncancelled harry and meghan uncancelled as harry and meghan jet off in a private plane to an island that billionaires go to escape millionaires. yeah i know. does that hypocrisy over climate change have no bounds? i will be asking that to esteemed royal biographer. that's angela levin. she's coming up very , levin. she's coming up very, very shortly. she's also tackling rumours that one of the pair has started house hunting back in the uk. pair has started house hunting back in the uk . you won't want back in the uk. you won't want to miss that. but right in to miss that. but right next in the buzz shoplifting the media buzz with shoplifting costing shops almost £1 costing british shops almost £1 billion a year, armed police still seem incapable of tackling the wave. so is britain's the crime wave. so is britain's first ever private police force, which has successfully
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prosecuted nearly 300 thieves already. the answer to this scourge of shoplifting personally , anything that i personally, anything that i think catches thieves is a good thing. i've got my expert panel to debate that. we're back
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radio. >> let's return now to tomorrow's news tonight in our media buzz . more front pages media buzz. more front pages have just been delivered. we start with the son biden . it was start with the son biden. it was an israel jihadi rocket blamed picture of a wounded child. let's move on now to the mirror where we've got don't make the same mistakes that we did. again another distressing image of a bloodied boy in the hospital in gaza. biden urges leaders to avoid 9/11 aggression as biden's message to israel. we'll go to the daily mail now. israeli president blast atrocious bbc over hamas in his first
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interview since war erupted , interview since war erupted, head of state benjamin netanyahu slams the corporation as unbelievable failure to label the group as terrorists right just at the top of that page as well, we got king his well, we got king charles, his plea to the nation. don't let the acrimony and rancour on social media debate corrode our national life. king charles wading in. we'll have a bit more on that later. actually, we'll finish off with guardian . finish off with the guardian. why consumed by why not? don't be consumed by rage. biden tells israel there's a theme here, isn't there, with the pages just down the the front pages just down the side panel we've got, they knew the nowhere else the risks but had nowhere else to gaza blast. interesting to go. gaza blast. interesting whether or not they're talking about the potential for hamas terrorists. they're firing rockets out of a cemetery behind a hospital or indeed, those people there go . and people fleeing. there we go. and joan bakewell, for what it's worth , not of variety worth, not of the tart variety saying , i've been pleased not to saying, i've been pleased not to be married for the last 20 years. right. moving on. more on the media buzz now with tonight's panel, author and broadcaster christine hamilton. yes we've businessman and yes we've got businessman and activist brooks and former
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activist adam brooks and former labour adviser matthew labour party adviser matthew lanza. so onwards head first towards lawless britain , which towards lawless britain, which has seen shoplifting soar in recent times by 24. last year alone, it cost british traders almost £1 billion a year. that's just the financial cost. i think the emotional and personal cost of having someone with a machete rock up at your corner shop and nick everything is probably even worse. police worse. but as the police and courts miserably courts fail miserably to tackle the of shoplifting, a the scourge of shoplifting, a firm dubbed britain's first private police force is succeeding . tmi. i spelt like succeeding. tmi. i spelt like the two that you've got in your head employs 100 uniformed staff and a further 28in plain clothes who are now taking a suspected burglar to court for the very first time police refused first time after police refused to investigate his alleged supermarket shop lifting. in fact , using supermarket shop lifting. in fact, using its own team of lawyers , tmi has so far lawyers, tmi has so far prosecute 300 thieves in court. remarkably winning 299 of the
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300 cases. so adam, our private police firms like these are a blessing for britain or a sign that the government has given up on law and order. >> well, there's 2—2 ways to look at it. i think they're needed for low level crime like this, that the police just cannot time or the cannot find the time or the manpower to deal with. so i would rather not live in a lawless britain again. i've got three children. i want it to be as safe. you know , as possible as safe. you know, as possible in society. so as long as they aren't given too many powers and they don't abuse their powers, they don't abuse their powers, they are regulated. it's a good thing . but let's also say we've thing. but let's also say we've had 13 years of a tory government and policing has got worse . so there's you know , worse. so there's no, you know, we can't take the blame away from the conservative party because it has got worse , i'll because it has got worse, i'll because it has got worse, i'll be honest with you. >> right. i don't mind this. i absolutely don't mind it. i think a lot of these people will be coppers a lot of them might even be ex—military, the of even be ex—military, the kind of people doing it. even be ex—military, the kind of peo;as doing it. even be ex—military, the kind of peo;as as doing it. even be ex—military, the kind of peo;as as somebody ng it. even be ex—military, the kind of peo;as as somebody is it. and as long as somebody is catching somebody accused and as long as somebody is ca'nickingomebody accused
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and as long as somebody is ca'nicking ,nebody accused and as long as somebody is ca'nicking , you de accused and as long as somebody is ca'nicking , you know, accused and as long as somebody is ca'nicking , you know, 500 accused and as long as somebody is ca'nicking , you know, 500 quid'sd of nicking, you know, 500 quid's worth of prosecco or pasta or whatever the heck it is from a shop, if the police aren't doing that, somebody else is, i don't mind. >> absolutely. well, the police have said they're going have said that they're not going to shoplifting to investigate shoplifting crime. is the crime. so what the hell is the firm even if it's a big firm shop? even if it's a big shop or what are they supposed to do? the government has through given through the police, has given up just on just like they've given up on the health service, which is why so given on so many people have given up on the service, why the health service, which is why so many have to go private. and i'm some i'm not surprised that some of these firms, if they can afford it going take on it, are going to take on private. interesting you private. it's interesting you say that. >> mean, i don't stealing >> i mean, i don't mind stealing shoplifting >> i mean, i don't mind stealing shopliftinlovely cosy term. >> it's a lovely cosy term. and if something from if you're taking something from a there's nobody a big company, there's nobody really , do they? really suffers, do they? that's what everybody stuff. what they do. everybody stuff. and is stealing and it's a and it is stealing and it's a crime. the police should investigate. let's just ignore it. >> low level crime, like stealing funds, drug abuse and drug abuse leads to further crimes. so it's a spiralling , crimes. so it's a spiralling, you know, a downward spiral of society . society. >> so i think abrogating their responsibility. >> i think that's absolutely it . >> i think that's absolutely it. >> i think that's absolutely it. >> christina, i mean, i think clearly the police resources are
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stretched out. people are going to moan, but we have we still have the same number of police officers per head of population. we labour power. we had when labour was in power. and it is extraordinary. >> yeah, but hang on a minute. hang minute. i have to hang on a minute. i just have to do population growth. do with rapid population growth. >> yeah, but >> i was going to say yeah, but also, the number >> i was going to say yeah, but alspolice the number >> i was going to say yeah, but alspolice needs the number >> i was going to say yeah, but alspolice needs keep|umber >> i was going to say yeah, but alspolice needs keep|umwith that. >> so there should have been recruiting and not recruiting more police and not cutting went to the cutting them. we went to the lowest number police in lowest number of police in modern this modern times earlier in this conservative modern times earlier in this con to vative modern times earlier in this con to boris, one the fair to boris, it's one of the few things actually few things he did actually deliver on was recruiting more few things he did actually delive|officers. recruiting more few things he did actually delive|officers. recrthe|g more few things he did actually delive|officers. recrthe numbers few things he did actually deli'gotfficers. recrthe numbers few things he did actually deli'gotfficelgotecrthe numbers few things he did actually deli'gotfficelgot really numbers few things he did actually deli'gotfficelgot really low.ibers had got had got really low. but i it's really important i think it's really important that police investigate that the police investigate the gangs that are doing the shoplifting. gangs that are doing the shoplifi sticking gangs that are doing the shoplifisticking one baked people sticking one tin of baked beans down down their beans down their down their sweaters are organised sweaters. these are organised gangs. sweaters. these are organised garlook sweaters. these are organised gar look , we're just got >> look, we're just about got time. land this on time. i'm going to land this on you. because did kind time. i'm going to land this on yo talk because did kind time. i'm going to land this on yo talk aboutecause did kind time. i'm going to land this on yo talk about this se did kind time. i'm going to land this on yo talk about this a did kind time. i'm going to land this on yo talk about this a bit did kind time. i'm going to land this on yo talk about this a bit earlier|d of talk about this a bit earlier on, want to revisit it. on, but i want to revisit it. it's the front the metro it's on the front of the metro tonight, 11 years for tonight, and it's 11 years for this million uk dinghy this £50 million uk dinghy kingpin. joining this £50 million uk dinghy kinwno1. joining this £50 million uk dinghy kinwno , joining this £50 million uk dinghy kinwno , he's joining this £50 million uk dinghy kinwno , he's not joining this £50 million uk dinghy kinwno , he's not a joining this £50 million uk dinghy kinwno , he's not a terribleng us, no, he's not a terrible dream. bloke was dream. a bloke who was responsible genuinely for one fifth the channel migrant fifth of the channel migrant crossings a couple of years ago
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at £50 million supposedly this people smuggling ring has gained 11 years. he's been sentenced to himself. by the way, is an iranian asylum seeker, was living in ilford. so all this idea that they're all living somewhere in the mountains in morocco and we can't possibly get hold of them, this guy's living have living in east london and have been responsible for been for years responsible for this years. he's got. and this 11 years. he's got. and he'll serving that in he'll be serving that in a belgian sure if belgian prison. i'm not sure if we're deport him we're able to deport him aftennards, possibly not if he's already successfully achieved asylum. did asylum. and even if we did deport anyone find deport him, if anyone could find their europe, it's their way back into europe, it's their way back into europe, it's the trafficking . the it's mr human trafficking. so, know, is, i think, so, you know, this is, i think, an absolute disgrace. >> he'd be out in >> adam 11 years, he'd be out in six, maybe seven, with good behaviour, with millions in the bank, millions in bank, bank, with millions in the bank, you no disrespect. you know, no disrespect. there's been area that have been people in my area that have got longer sentences for selling illegal know, the illegal plants. so you know, the justice system in this country is an absolute joke. and it's not just the money that they've earned. they're the that money goes prostitution . it goes goes into prostitution. it goes into really nasty . into other really nasty. >> absolutely. and that's i mean, look, that's that's one of the reasons why keir starmer
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said he would terrorism said he would use terrorism legislation, said he would use terrorism legisla sentences against these people. >> it's got to be your life. it's got to be mandatory life, surely. there is as surely. well there is no as as far as i'm aware, there is no precedent anybody sentencing precedent for anybody sentencing somebody this somebody for this because this is time anybody's been is the first time anybody's been brought is the first time anybody's been bro so it is the first time anybody's been bro so what on earth was. i don't >> so what on earth was. i don't know it was. the judge know who it was. does the judge thinking of handing down a pathetic sentence, you know, what send? what message does this send? >> seriously? this this is a crime that get away crime that you can get away with. incorporates putting with. it incorporates putting people in dinghies that cross the busiest shipping world, a huge risk potential there for, you know , at least what would you know, at least what would you know, at least what would you say, corporate manslaughter? yes, absolutely. then you've got breaking into a series of countries . you've got all of the countries. you've got all of the different bribery and everything that and the grand that goes with it. and the grand culmination those culmination of all of those things is 11 years for a bloke who is right top. who is right at the top. >> i could get two >> i could possibly get two years someone years for misgendering. someone youyeah, exactly . >> yeah, exactly. >> remarkable. >> remarkable. >> any luck , he might >> with any luck, he might squeal and bring a few squeal in prison and bring a few more people down with him. let's hope they get a proceeds of crime him. crime order against him. >> will hold breath if >> but i will hold my breath if they can.
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>> just this is >> but i'm just not sure this is going can i going to deter anyone. can i just ask that question? i know it a bit unsavoury to it might seem a bit unsavoury to us, somebody slap us, but if somebody did slap down million front of you us, but if somebody did slap dow said, million front of you us, but if somebody did slap dow said, doillion front of you us, but if somebody did slap dow said, do you] front of you us, but if somebody did slap dow said, do you fancy)nt of you us, but if somebody did slap dow said, do you fancy doing you and said, do you fancy doing seven in and seven years in nick? and then when it's £20 when you come out it's £20 million in belgium? >> i wouldn't. i've kids >> no, i wouldn't. i've got kids couldn't see kids for that. couldn't see my kids for that. >> been inside >> have you been inside a prison, patrick? >> maybe makes me a >> well, maybe that makes me a bad person. i thought i'd go about said about response and i said nothing. i'd tell you i'd be straight. >> no way, patrick. i don't need another million. another 20 million. >> owe . >> you don't owe. >> you don't owe. >> area is good, lads. >> area is good, lads. >> see, the drinks are on you. >> see, the drinks are on you. >> all right, we got a little bit of interesting developments for you now. interesting developments. for you now. interesting dev script ents. for you now. interesting dev script when we planned this the script when we planned this show tonight, show. breaking tonight, protesters taken over the protesters have taken over the us capitol to demand a ceasefire between israel and hamas. the demonstration reportedly organised by a left wing jewish group , comes a day after the group, comes a day after the bombing of hospital which bombing of a hospital which claimed least claimed the lives of at least 500 palestinians. more than 100 arrests have been made so far . i arrests have been made so far. i think we can have a look at now. we can some of these extraordinary pictures. this is ongoing now at the
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ongoing right now at the capitol. let's take it away. come . on all right. so that appears to be a load of pro—israelis in the capitol building, sitting in there saying that they want a ceasefire. so what's going on at the moment and how do they how do they allow that? >> how they allow them to get in? >> why is anything like the last one? just in, one? they'll just allow in, won't they're mad. won't they? well they're mad. >> wouldn't wouldn't won't they? well they're mad. >> that uldn't wouldn't won't they? well they're mad. >> that inin't wouldn't won't they? well they're mad. >> that in the wouldn't won't they? well they're mad. >> that in the westminster allow that in the westminster central yeah allow that in the westminster central the yeah allow that in the westminster central the thing is, if you >> well the thing is, if you just are just if you just if people are allowed obviously they allowed in, obviously if they just and just decide to sit down and start chanting. >> yeah. start chanting. >> yeaiwhen you realise there's >> but when you realise there's a protest going on, shut a protest going on, you shut the doors, the january doors, you say no on the january sixth one that given sixth one that was given a guided before the police.
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guided tour before the police. >> that's very >> yes, that's very true. >> yes, that's very true. >> minor >> okay. yeah. minor, minor point of clarification. i think they jewish people for they are jewish people for peace, not necessarily pro—israeli. go. a peace, not necessarily pro wanteli. go. a peace, not necessarily pro want of go. a peace, not necessarily pro want of better go. a peace, not necessarily pro want of better phrase, a for want of a better phrase, a minefield. part the minefield. that part of the world isn't it? world at the moment isn't it? but chancellor world at the moment isn't it? but nine chancellor world at the moment isn't it? but nine lord chancellor world at the moment isn't it? but nine lord nigelchancellor world at the moment isn't it? but nine lord nigel lawsonlor world at the moment isn't it? but nine lord nigel lawson .:r george nine lord nigel lawson. easy for to say. and sadiq easy for me to say. and sadiq khan for awards in khan are nominated for awards in tonight's greatest britain and union do either of union jackass. but do either of them win one of tonight's crowns? find out shortly . but crowns? find out shortly. but next there's harry next in uncancel, there's harry and in a private and meghan jet off in a private plane an island where plane to an island where billionaires escape billionaires go to escape millionaires. does their climate change hypocrisy have bounds ? change hypocrisy have no bounds? i will ask esteemed royal biographer angela levin next to also tackling rumours that one of those pair is house hunting back in the uk. but who could it be back .
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in two? it's time now for uncancelled with top royal author angela levin and the duke . i always get levin and the duke. i always get
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that wrong and the duke and duchess of sussex have flown back into the headlines in style after being papped arriving at an exclusive caribbean island after a gas guzzling private jet fly pictures from mail online show harry and meghan on the tarmac after jetting to the tiny island said to be where billionaire's getaway from mere millionaires is for a holiday without their kids. that's all right. for some, isn't it? now, i don't begrudge anyone travelling by private jet, but it's bit rich for eco preacher it's a bit rich for eco preacher harry, who said that he's only going to two kids to save going to have two kids to save the , to be whizzing the planet, to be whizzing around like this. now, angela levin joins me. are these two hypocrites or as private jets just a necessity to escape millionaires? >> no, no, no. they are total hypocrites. >> they're getting naughtier and snottier . snottier. >> and as they spend more time together and actually they feel that what they do is more important than what anyone else does, and they don't have to toe the line, but they just tell other people what to do.
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>> i mean, they talked about mental health and meghan was talking about having the parents there doing all that . so there and doing all that. so it's all easy, but it's it's all very easy, but it's just to speak to her father and she's the last person with the family . and very rude family. and harry was very rude saying that if you are someone who lives in the country, you won't know anything about social media. >> so that's why he has to tell them so , you know, very sorry, them so, you know, very sorry, but but the sense of entitlement. >> exactly . he thinks he's the >> exactly. he thinks he's the dalai lama or something. >> yes. so it's extremely rude. and then what meghan said with oprah that the real title she cares about is being a mom. yes and sorry, i'm just going to throw up a little bit in my mouth , but. mouth, but. >> okay. what would you say to the people who go, they are the most papped couple in the world, right? they need privacy more than anybody else. they're going to be on holiday. she might not want bikini pictures out there. all of that stuff, which i can understand. they might to
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understand. they might want to relax. they've got to relax. so they've got to go to an where billionaires escaped. >> a case of relaxing, >> it's not a case of relaxing, is a case seeing is it? it's a case of seeing the billionaires say here i billionaires who can say here i am. do you think it's networking? that's the thing. of course it's networking. >> there >> you think they go there thinking people she thinking the people that she wants to use and it's actually sort of shining. >> and that's her tick tick that i think she's got lots of boxes in her head of ticking. are you jealous? in her head of ticking. are you jeaiwould you not like to be on >> would you not like to be on billionaire island? no. >> i wouldn't, because >> no, i wouldn't, because i think thing you think all the thing that you care money. it's care about is money. then it's really pathetic. >> mean, proper >> well, so i mean, proper billionaires like yourself don't need to be. need be need to be. don't need to be seen island. do seen on billionaire island. do they? i mean it. but but it's they? i mean it. but but it's the private jet thing, though, isn't it? i mean, again, seriously, do lose seriously, do they lose all rights lectures about rights to lectures about anything with climate anything to do with the climate when a when you literally take a private jet to billionaires island? >> i don't think they've got the right to sit us what to right to sit to tell us what to do anything in any area. do about anything in any area. actually, not royals. actually, they're not royals. they haven't got the experience . they haven't got the experience. it's all about them. they've got their ideas of what they're their own ideas of what they're going so they get money their own ideas of what they're goithey so they get money their own ideas of what they're goithey can so they get money their own ideas of what they're goithey can use they get money their own ideas of what they're
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goithey can use peoplet money their own ideas of what they're goithey can use people andwney their own ideas of what they're goithey can use people and get so they can use people and get more and more up making these billions billionaires billions and billionaires and going for on that. but think going for on that. but i think it's shocking and very distasteful. >> okay . okay. well, there you >> okay. okay. well, there you go. i mean, i've got to be honest with you, part of me does want to get on a private jet to billionaires island. but i'm not lecturing people about the climate. this is the thing i'm not lecturing not the one lecturing people. i just hold hands up go, just hold my hands up and go, that a great that sounds like a great holiday, reports holiday, but angela reports today suggest the harry and meghan move meghan are divided over a move back duke back to the uk as the duke starts house hunting in starts house hunting again in london. true what's london. so it's not true what's going on? where's he going? >> true it's >> it seems to be true that it's not going father . not going to ask his father. he's not going try and get he's not going to try and get a piece royal land. he's going piece of royal land. he's going to own house. to get his own house. >> he. you mean that man >> that he. you mean that a man in he? early 40. in his how old is he? early 40. he's going to stand on his own two feet? >> no, he won't, because he'll be asking for money from be then asking for money from his father. don't you? yeah, but i this but meghan i think this is. but meghan doesn't come. we know doesn't want to come. we know that. but he does . and people that. but he does. and people say he wants to meet all his family again and get the kids to know them. that's nonsense, isn't it? because month
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isn't it? because just a month ago, they were looking in a part of los angeles where all the top sports pop people were there and they wanted to live there. now they wanted to live there. now they wanted to live there. now they want to live in london. i think it's just a way of getting on to the headlines and i think it's nonsense. but think there it's nonsense. but i think there will be dreadful for king charles because think they charles because i think they will come here. they will try and crush and destroy what they're doing and how would they do that then? so what do you think they find out what they're going happen they'll do going to happen and they'll do it day before it their way the day before and ruin think, ruin it. do you think, seriously? . but that's seriously? oh, yes. but that's what did a couple of years seriously? oh, yes. but that's whatso did a couple of years seriously? oh, yes. but that's whatso septembere of years seriously? oh, yes. but that's whatso september , of years seriously? oh, yes. but that's what so september , you ears seriously? oh, yes. but that's whatso september , you know, ago. so in september, you know, for the army, they did that in in america, you know, i find it i find bizarre would be that if you've slated a country like they have, they've slated britain, they've slated , i would britain, they've slated, i would argue, the views of the majority of the british people and then fled because you said that there
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was no other choice. >> why on earth? i mean, there's a lot of other countries out there. why would you choose to come there. why would you choose to con because they want to >> because i think they want to get own harry's get their own back. harry's determined father to determined to get his father to apologise to his wife. he must have it. and that's why he'll come back and he'll go anywhere. there are no longer nice couple, a nice couple. they are there to get better and to take advantage of it. and they will be able to know what's going on and then use it to their own. >> i wonder whether, remarkably and i don't very often say this, given we've just segment given we've just done a segment on lawless right. but on lawless britain. right. but i wonder not they've wonder whether or not they've thought be better wonder whether or not they've thotheir be better wonder whether or not they've thotheir kids be better wonder whether or not they've thotheir kids to be better wonder whether or not they've thotheir kids to go be better wonder whether or not they've thotheir kids to go to be better wonder whether or not they've thotheir kids to go to schooler for their kids to go to school in a country where people don't walk with guns. walk into school with guns. i mean might be an option mean, that might be an option for them. maybe that's for them. maybe maybe that's what to wait what it is. we'll have to wait and won't we? won't and see, though, won't we? won't see. you very see. angela thank you very, very much. levin there. always much. angela levin there. always a favourite. so thank a fan favourite. so thank you very much. right, stay very, very much. and right, stay where are because othennise very, very much. and right, stay where be are because othennise very, very much. and right, stay where be caughtecause othennise very, very much. and right, stay where be caughtecalcamera. wise very, very much. and right, stay where be caughtecalcamera. it'se you'll be caught on camera. it's time now for today's greatest britain and union jackass right? with me to reveal theirs is my
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panel with me to reveal theirs is my panel. we're going to start with you, christine. go on. who is we're going greatest britain first. my greatest. >> greatest. britain is nigel >> my greatest. britain is nigel lawson, whose memorial service was in london. he was was yesterday in london. he was the post—war the greatest post—war chancellor. he provided the intellectual basis for the tax cutting, the privatisation on which steamrollered the thatcher government, and he spearheaded the britain's recovery. a lot of it has been wasted now, but nigel lawson okay, that's your greatest. >> britain and we will go over to you, adam come on. >> mine is lord markham for correcting the general medical council . all that biological sex council. all that biological sex matters. after they removed the word mother from maternity guidance . guidance. >> yes. okay. i know you feel very, very strongly about that, matthew. >> mine are the tens of thousands of polish citizens who live in britain who voted in such numbers at the weekend's vital election . they're still vital election. they're still counting the votes, you know. >> right. i got a second. it's right. it's one thing, right. picking foreign born people. it's another thing loads it's another thing picking loads of going to
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it's another thing picking loads of to going to it's another thing picking loads of to plural going to it's another thing picking loads of to plural foreign to have to go plural and foreign born being born anyway. okay. i'm being told hurry can't told to hurry up. i can't remember who for. i think remember who i went for. i think i went adam's one. yeah, i i went for adam's one. yeah, i did. we well did. there we go. well done. it's britain is it's a nice greatest britain is lord right? union lord markham, right? union jackass. lord markham, right? union jackass away. i don't know take it away. well, i don't know who is, but whoever who it is, but it's whoever organised and declared that today. >> believe or not, is >> believe it or not, is international pronouns day. >> mine is sadiq khan again for overseeing the authorities that allowed the protests near the cenotaph disgraceful . cenotaph disgraceful. >> matthew mine is steakhouse chain miller and carter , who've chain miller and carter, who've been criticised for taking payments waiters to payments from waiters tips to upgrade the wages of chefs. >> right. that's by way can >> right. that's by the way can i favourite i just say my favourite restaurant chain ? so you can you restaurant chain? so you can you can do one but, but they've got a team members have not and will never asked to contribute never be asked to contribute towards from their own towards tips from their own remuneration and are always paid at above national minimum at or above national minimum wage. matthew i would recommend the medium rare, right? the t—bone medium rare, right? you take me. you can take me. >> patrick i've gone for sadiq khan, who's today's union? >> jack right. look, thank you very, my wonderful very, very much to my wonderful panel has panel and to everybody who has
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been tuning in. i'll be back tomorrow from 9 pm. next up, of course, headliners good course, it's headliners good night . night. >> hi there. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast . storm the gb news forecast. storm babette arrives over the next 24 hours, bringing with it exceptional rainfall for eastern scotland in particular. red warning has been issued. here's babette for the rest of wednesday. moving into central parts of the uk. it's been a wet day for southern areas , but that day for southern areas, but that rains now moving into north wales, the midlands, northern england and northern ireland overnight. especially heavy across northern ireland, with the risk of 30 to 50 or even 60mm by the end of the night. and so that could cause some disruption dawn . othennise disruption by dawn. othennise it's drying up a little towards the south. it stays blustery, it stays as a result stays cloudy and as a result it's going to be a mild start to thursday , but it going to be thursday, but it is going to be an for wet an unpleasant start for many wet and weather. strong gusts and windy weather. strong gusts of associated with storm of wind associated with storm babette, but then increasingly wet and windy for central and northern scotland in particular with 70 or even 80
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with in places 70 or even 80 mile per hour wind gusts. and that wind driving heavy and persistent rain into eastern scotland in particular, angus and aberdeenshire seeing that rainfall really build up over the next 48 hours. up until the weekend with in places 200 to 250mm of rainfall in 1 or 2 spots could see twice . october's spots could see twice. october's average rainfall fall in just a few days. that would cause serious amounts of flooding
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you with gb news. >> in the top story tonight , the >> in the top story tonight, the prime minister is travelling to israel as part of a two day trip to the middle east in what downing street explains as help to avoid a dangerous escalation of the conflict. rishi sunak will arrive in israel tomorrow morning and is due to meet the prime minister of israel, benjamin netanyahu , and benjamin netanyahu, and president herzog , before president herzog, before travelling to other countries in the region. he's expected to share his condolences for the loss of life in israel and gaza. well the prime minister was speaking today in clacton on sea, and he commented that the attack on the hospital in gaza last night should be a watershed moment . he's called for calm moment. he's called for calm heads as intelligence analysts establish exactly what happened . establish exactly what happened. officials in gaza, however, are still blaming the explosion last night in gaza on the israelis.
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